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How To Make Assassin Balanced! (72 Supporters!)

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by XavierEXE, Mar 5, 2016.

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Your take on Assassin?

  1. Assassin needs a HUGE nerf, it's so OP!

    8 vote(s)
    5.1%
  2. Assassin needs a bit of a nerf to be balanced.

    8 vote(s)
    5.1%
  3. Assassin is fine the way it is.

    42 vote(s)
    26.6%
  4. Assassin needs a bit of a buff to be balanced.

    87 vote(s)
    55.1%
  5. Assassin needs a HUGE buff, it's so UP!

    20 vote(s)
    12.7%
  6. I don't play assassin.

    26 vote(s)
    16.5%
  7. I don't care.

    21 vote(s)
    13.3%
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  1. GriffTheSpartan

    GriffTheSpartan I am the ruler of all Spartans!

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    Can someone help me!
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    My brother account got hacked so he had diamond boots and a lot of other stuff in his inventory and it is gone.
     
  2. MagicGum

    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    I think all the other spells are pretty balanced.
     
  3. SeanThomas2

    SeanThomas2 Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    hey i wasn't talking to you, just to make sure look at the name in the reply
     
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  4. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    This is not the place nor time for this.
     
  5. GriffTheSpartan

    GriffTheSpartan I am the ruler of all Spartans!

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    I know but there is no place FOR IT.
     
  6. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    ...bug reports section.
    Let's please stay on topic.
     
  7. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Archers can't use escape in the air, most people teleport or charge back to where you are, meaning you can throw them in again
     
  8. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    Not when you're out of mana from using vanish to get close then using multihit.
     
  9. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    The almighty sneak key can help with that. Hide behind a building or a pillar (in the nether), wait for the enemy to get close, and attack them.
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    Sure, lets just forget your insistance that multihit is just a worse uppercut...
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    Also, I don't unvanish when hit by an attack. I took a meteor to the face the other day, survived with 1000 health, and somehow stayed vanished.
     
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  10. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Yes, because it's SO HARD to wait for your mana to recharge. Also, there's a little thing called not spamming spells, and it works wonders on mana. There's also a thing called a basic attack, which deals damage. Also, the glitch only happens occasionally. I don't unvanish when hit by meteor or uppercut, but the other spells do make me unvanish.
     
  12. ashdalf

    ashdalf wagoo wagoo

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    More paragraphs than SPYROHAWK
     
  13. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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  14. MagicGum

    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    going to continue with your sarcasm here...Oh man, I never knew this holy shit you are a smart fellow. I wonder why nobody has thought about this... Wow we are all so dumb, I mean obviously the solution to mana is just don't use spells. I'm going to have to rethink my life....

    On a legit note though, I don't think you've been following this thread. You should go take a look. Our argument is comparing to other transport spells and the balance.
     
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    Vanish costs 4 mana, and if you have enough intelligence to drop Multihits down to a 7 mana cost, it would cost 3. In addition, if you are utilizing Vanish for a short-range dash, it would not take 5 mana to run up to an opponent.
     
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    Untitled Doc 1 man robotics team

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    Actually it is not useless it can be used for trolling your friends like vanishing, then talking and your friend wonders where you went. Also it can be used to delay your death by a couple of seconds, or if you are lucky, escape. If you want to buff classes that probably won't work. I suggest buffing EVERY class skill's by a little bit in terms of values. Then add a negative perk that sort of counter acts the perks a little bit, and instead of giving assassin a bad negative perk, give it a slightly less bad perk than mage or something

    Not trying to advertise, but an example is on my class idea for Templar/Paladin which has a negative skill perk of it's fourth ability (might have to scroll):
    https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/class-idea-paladin-templar-1-9.115892/

    This way game devs can either choose to buff a class or nerf a class in two ways: by changing the positive effect or by changing the negative effects.
     
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  17. Kraby

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    ok as much as i Appreciate you talking with us about assassin
    please
    ask salted to fix your mana drain on assassin (or whoever is doing that kind of stuff , jumala mybe? dunno)
    before you start talking like you can feel our pain with it

    i am gonna put up a few arguements feel free to counter them , note that i have not read every single one of your posts -
    mana drain on vanish , now the problem? without a water build vanish renders nearly useless since 3-4 seconds of vanish already takes half your mana away and no 2 seconds is not enough to get to safety
    assassin is meant to sneak up on the enemy and deal a lot of damage , am i right? than why (taking warrior since its the most balanced class imo) with warrior you can deal quite a bit more damage AND have an easier time sneaking on those people (just charging before they get to move)
    moving on to multi hit , the spell that costs the most amount of mana in the entire game.. (10 mana) yet it deals 300% damage (and yea force is nice but not enough to make up for it)
    lets look at other classes spells
    warrior - 375% damage upper cut and 5 mana cost , 5 , thats half the mana cost and a lot more damage while having bigger range
    mage- meteor ... 400% damage and with the aoe damage from the burning ground 500% , at the cost of 6 mana , i get it , mage depends on spells but this is just to show how weak multi hit is compared to other spells
    archer - well its a damaging class , i wont mind it for now
    now those mana costs might be wrong , but thats what the help section on the site says and the wiki
    now what do i suggest? simply , first of all make multi hit hit 2 times more , making assassin's multi hit damage 350% ( quite a bit more damage with a bit more time to use force)
    AND make the spell cost 9 mana , its still a ton compared to other classes , its just a bit less
    and than one of the following suggestions:
    1) make the first spell that you use when unvanishing cost half the mana its supposed to , simply make it so you can sneak up on enemies and still be able to cast a spell on them
    2) make mana drain way slower
    3) remove mana drain but keep it so mana wont regen in vanish (so if you sprint the mana will drain and not regen but not if you stand or walk)
    4) make mana drain in vanish only when moving and make it regen when standing still (not sure about this one)

    anyways those are my thoughts .... yea
     
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  18. fasdfsadfwewf

    fasdfsadfwewf Deadpool CHAMPION

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    Why do these threads exist?
    Assassin is great for me, if you aren't doing enough damage then build a spell damage build.
    My spin attack does around 10k neutral and 4k in elements, smoke does 2-2.5k per hit neutral damage so I don't see why Assassin needs a buff.
    The only change that needs to be made is the damage difference between multihit and smoke bomb which probably should be switched.
    As a pre-gavel Assassin I hope it never goes back to the way it was because it was unfair for all the other classes which made PvP quite boring because Assassin was too op back then and now it is balanced.
     
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  20. Lesliep

    Lesliep Lazy Wynn Mage

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    45 seconds??? Niice
     
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