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How To Make Assassin Balanced! (72 Supporters!)

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by XavierEXE, Mar 5, 2016.

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Your take on Assassin?

  1. Assassin needs a HUGE nerf, it's so OP!

    8 vote(s)
    5.1%
  2. Assassin needs a bit of a nerf to be balanced.

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  3. Assassin is fine the way it is.

    42 vote(s)
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  4. Assassin needs a bit of a buff to be balanced.

    87 vote(s)
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  5. Assassin needs a HUGE buff, it's so UP!

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  6. I don't play assassin.

    26 vote(s)
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  7. I don't care.

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  1. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    No, no it wouldn't. You still have to wait for mana to recharge with the other classes movement spells. If you remove mana drain from vanish, you have 16 seconds to recharge your mana, meaning you'd have full mana by the time it ends, meaning you can cast ANOTHER vanish, then another, then another. You'd be able to stay invisible pretty much indefinitely. Remember, the other transport spells are instant, this one isn't. The solutions that work for the other spells won't work here.
     
  2. MagicGum

    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    I never said anything about letting mana regen DURING vanish...vanish has never had regen during vanish and never will
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    Also to add to what I said, it's the exact reason why the other transport spells are instant, is the reason why it's unbalanced. This is why vanish needs a small buff in order to be balanced with the other transport spells. In my opinion at least...
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    to even FURTHER add to this...once assassins are stunned, we are stunned and cannot move at all. RIP our range is the worst out of all the classes
     
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  3. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    This is a good point.

    Buuuut... you can remove status effects with Spin Attack I thought?
     
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    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    and while I am on a roll here I'd like to add you can see the footsteps of a vanished assassin as it leaves a trail of smoke....also poison will reveal us too so there's no point in trying to vanish again after getting hit.
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    My bad I forgot about this. But I don't know if this is true or not but I think you have to hit something with your spin attack to get rid of the effects. And if this is true...our range is so small how are we supposed to hit anything unless it's a warrior.
     
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  5. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    A. Our most powerful spell is ranged
    B. I'm pretty sure Warriors have less range
    C. Spin attack gives you any buffs that the enemy has. Just steal speed from the archer, or defense/ strength from a warrior. It does get rid of any debuffs too, so there's that.
    D. A lot of archers refuse to use escape and stay on the ground. I dunno why, but it does happen.
     
  6. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    A. Yes, which is a problem when you're a melee class. That's why I also had the other suggestion.
    B. Assassin's smoke bomb technically has more range than every warrior spell except war scream, but warrior's basic attack hits farther from the player than assassin's basic attack.
    C. Yes.
    D.Yes, but you need to take into account the few smart people the actually use escape.
     
  7. Mistrise Mystic

    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    A. How is that a problem? It gives assassins an effective counter against mages/archers and idiots who stop to chat in a duel
    B. Good point
    D. The few smart people are a problem, which makes sense, because they're smart and play smart.
     
  8. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    A. It's counter intuitive for a MELEE class's most powerful spell to be RANGE. You picked melee to have powerful melee and a range spell as a bonus, not the other way around.
    D. Yes
     
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  9. MagicGum

    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    A. To be completely honest if you throw a smoke bomb at someone, chances are, they're going to avoid it unless they are super naive.

    And Im going to bash the assassin class for a second.
    Assassin play style is literally warrior just without the tankiness. I mean sure we have vanish but it's rarely used because of mana drain while all the other classes can deal more damage with their transport spell. Multi hit is basically uppercut with less damage. Think about it.

    This would be pretty controversial but I say buff Something so something will do more damage.
     
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  10. ashdalf

    ashdalf wagoo wagoo

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    Yeah, but by the time you've made a safe distance, you lost about 3-4 orbs of mana. And you have to regain it, while trying to fight enemies. Also compared to other classes it's not as practical. All mobility spells for each class does damage and is good for travelling. Mages, warriors, and archers can use their mobility spell to get a safe distance away from the enemies. Assassin have to vanish, use up a good amount of mana and unvanish. Meanwhile it does no damage, it doesn't travel as efficiently, and can cost more mana. This isn't really balanced. You could argue that, that's the way assassin is suppose to be played, but it's still unbalanced and unfair. When you compare it to other classes. Doesn't make much sense that an archer gets a speed III buff, when assassins should be the cloak and dagger, sneaky and speedy class. There is 0 appeal with vanish, when there are classes with much better mobility spells.
     
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    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    We've stated our facts now come at us @Selvut283 :D
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Clearly you haven't done Jungle Fever or Wynnexcavation. Vanish is SUPER good for avoiding Iron golems and ancients. Also, teleport doesn't deal damage in duels so
     
  13. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    Since when? I main mage and it works for me...
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Multihit has force. Do I need to say more?
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    Wait what? I tried it on sunday and it deals no damage whe I fought...
     
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    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    Yeah I want a refund salted. Please exchange force for damage lulz. Although it makes you feel like a beast, it's not that hard to move something to where you want it with uppercut so I rather have an exchange.
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Just throw people into water, lava, a wall, or something else. People can still move under uppercut, so they can position themselfs to land on a roof. It deals damage, but you'd be pretty much out of a warrior's range
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    Also, do you REALLY want the random, wild multihit again? It's more dangerous to you than to the mobs
     
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    ashdalf wagoo wagoo

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    LOL for those quests I grabbed my 30/30 horse and ran right passed them.
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    And for those who don't have the cash to buy a Chestnut horse?
     
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    ashdalf wagoo wagoo

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    I mean... you can even do it with a black. I used a black horse for jungle fever. And if you don't have a chestnut or black for jungle fever or Excavation D, then what the hell are you doing XD
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Being VERY unlucky (20% chance my ***)
     
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