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How To Make Assassin Balanced! (72 Supporters!)

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by XavierEXE, Mar 5, 2016.

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Your take on Assassin?

  1. Assassin needs a HUGE nerf, it's so OP!

    8 vote(s)
    5.1%
  2. Assassin needs a bit of a nerf to be balanced.

    8 vote(s)
    5.1%
  3. Assassin is fine the way it is.

    42 vote(s)
    26.6%
  4. Assassin needs a bit of a buff to be balanced.

    87 vote(s)
    55.1%
  5. Assassin needs a HUGE buff, it's so UP!

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    12.7%
  6. I don't play assassin.

    26 vote(s)
    16.5%
  7. I don't care.

    21 vote(s)
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  1. Twin Lotus

    Twin Lotus Straw Hat VIP+

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    ~ In response to those saying vanish is easy to use ~

    While it is true that you must not try to drain your mana quickly by adding a couple seconds to your vanish, what about situations where you're trying to get away from projectiles? Once you vanish, the projectile seems to hit you anyways, revealing you. Then you gotta do it a second or third time. This does not always happen, but it does happen, and it is very annoying because you just wasted another portion of your mana trying to vanish. My point is, its quite harder to escape with Assassin's vanish in some situations. Not all, but some.

    In comparison to other classes, other classes can easily get away with their second spell because its more instant, faster in movement, and hard to catch, but for assassin/ninja it is a little trickier because firstly, you are likely in the middle of the situation and they might immediately hit you anyways in your vanish, once again, revealing you (If they are ranged or had used a spell on you) Secondly, you got to plan how you are going to use your mana, while being able to cast other spells afterwards to further prove your escape or to assassinate a thing. "But there's intelligence for a reason?", yes, absolutely true, but that does not fight the fact that vanish is truly mana-consuming, no matter what kind of intelligence you have. Likely you will have about half the mana gauge by the end of it all, and you have to save some hunger to sprint or vanish another, pretty much capping your mana to a very low rate. However, mana regen is quite likely the most essential thing you'd need in these situations because base mana regen is quite low and takes a while to come back, and once again it is likely you will have no mana by the end of your vanish.

    It's just ... hard! Hard to get used to. Mana regen is pretty much my only hope after I'm done my vanish.
     
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  2. Sokool

    Sokool Travelled Adventurer

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    Ok I think assassin is good, but I have noticed a glitch. I play archer and assassin. My archer class is fine, but whenever I play my assassin, sometimes my legendaries disappear... I have lost 2 scorpions, iron knuckle, stabsand and reaper of souls. I was heading to gavel from selchar just 10 minutes ago with my level 53 assassin. I had reaper of souls and scorpion on me. I was riding my boat and they both disappeared. This has happened to me before with my assassin, but I had no other weapons. I broke my boat to look for the weapons in the water, but they were gone... Now im stuck idk where I am on the map and I have no movement spells... Rip. (Also I think vanish could use a slower drain, just by a bit)
     
  3. MagicGum

    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    Inb4 some ignorant guy goes JUST GET GUD KID OMG U ASSINSZ ALWAYTZ compalIANING 1!!1!1!!!1
     
  4. Loggerhead

    Loggerhead Some Loggerhead

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    I agree with buff smoke bomb and nerf multi-hit. When I use smoke bomb, It feels like it's not even working, and as a level 50, I can kill level 60-65 mobs IN 1 HIT WITH IT!!! Now the vanish thing, no.... a few weeks ago, like 2. I was doing jungle fever, and OMG, vanish Helped ALOT when it came to the god damn emerald labyrinth, I say we keep that the same.
     
  5. Fread

    Fread Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    if you dont want your mana to drain quickly, be like selvut

    and regen mana during vanish
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    there is actually another way to solve this problem.
    GIVE ASSASSIN SPEED X DURING VANISH
    that would still drain a lot. i mean simply vanishing already cost you a lot.
    AI(mobs)dont need to find you
    THEY SENSE YOUR EXISTENCE
    i mean like look at broe archer build how are you even gonna sneak up on him
    archer can walk in places that doesnt have any obstacles near them. I am sure you can never spin attack hit them. not to mention even if you did spin attack them they can escape and get away
    look i wasted 10le on scrolls already assassin IS UP ACCEPT THE TRUTH
    even if you get max int you still cant regen mana during vanish
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    my build is exactly the same. STILL SUCKS
    it still drains when you are standing still
    i am pretty sure no matter how speedy you are, you still cant catch up a speed archer
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    you guys may say: well you can get good mana regen so you regen back to full after unvanish

    DID YOU FORGET IT TAKE 4 SECONDS FOR MANA REGEN TO ACTIVATE!?!?!?
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    In my opinion there is a few way to make assassin balance again:
    1. Buff multit a lot. i mean a lot. smoke bomb is way too op as you can BOTH spin attack AND basic attack while smoke bomb is activate but you cant basic attack your enemy when he is flying in the sky. Not to mention ppl can heal/drink pots during multihit

    2. Cancel the mana drain for assassin. Yes, cancel, not reduce

    3. give assassin speed V during vanish, at least you can escape "fast" now (still you are slower than charge/teleport/escape)
     
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  6. TheDerpyAldrin

    TheDerpyAldrin A tired college student

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    You're like, the saltiest dude out there, take a damn chill pill.
     
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  7. Fread

    Fread Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    it's my duty to participate in all thread related to assassin
     
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  8. Kraby

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    he really isnt
     
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  9. TheDerpyAldrin

    TheDerpyAldrin A tired college student

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    Even assassin's creed threads?
     
  10. Fread

    Fread Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    *every wynncraft class system thread especially if it involves assassin
     
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  11. Zelefant

    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    I like how you said to be like selvut then countered him.
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    1. Kinda agree with you that multihit is underpowered, but it's still usable, mainly to force your opponent into water or lava
    2. So basically you can spam vanish and continually stay invisible? OP much?
    3. Pretty sure speed V outspeeds every horse except white ones
     
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    Speed V ? no class can get speed V in any way
     
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    Mistrise Mystic Surfing winds and chasing windfalls HERO

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    Read the quote.
     
  15. Slyarcticwolf

    Slyarcticwolf Wolf VIP+

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    have you ever played assassin?
     
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    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    Still. zdo a bunch of intelligence. In real life, assassins have to be smart and sneaky. Intelligence just makes sense, both in real life and Wynn.
     
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    MrTagger Travelled Adventurer

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    Smoke Bomb is very useful. There are times when I wished to switch to a ranged class but then I remember the smoke bomb. It is the only skill/spell that is ranged. If you take it away I will be very upset. Also since it is a skill/spell it uses up mana. Which cost about 10 mana. I think the assassin class is great the way it is.
     
  18. Slyarcticwolf

    Slyarcticwolf Wolf VIP+

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    vanish drains mana the same with or without intelligence
     
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    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    Your intelligence isnt high enough.
     
  20. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    Intelligence only lowers the initial cost of casting vanish, it doesn't lower the drain while vanish is active...
    ...so this is correct.
     
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