Media Why Life Steal Isn't Viable

Bad luck + changing id range from 0.7-1.3 to 0.3-1.3

I know it activates often but if it's essentially random, there's a chance for it to not activate for a loooooong time

I would rather not have luck determine whether I get healed or not.

 

Then why not focus on a health regen build rather than a life steal build? Or, perhaps use potions?

 

Said no Mage ever

 

If that's the case then why have life steal items meant for life steal builds?

 

So a super fast item can only activate lifesteal once every 7 seconds? That's terrible.. Why not just make it every 2 seconds guaranteed for all attack speeds?

 

I don't care so much about the lifesteal, it means I'll have to completely redesign my build (apocalypse) but the real bummer here is manasteal. I sorta stopped playing a week ago because boss fights just arn't fun anymore, and I'm level 87, 2 levels below what I want to be (89)

 

Selvut seems to avoid questions by disappearing. I quoted him and asked this while he was online, and nothing. This happened on the assassin thread too, where his assassin somehow regenerates mana in vanish when ours don't.

 

Do u confirm that life regen is betterthan life steal ??
and btw is life steal useless now ?

 

uhhhh personally i still love life steal for crowd controll lol my assassin has uhhh i think 200 life steal? XD and i only need potions for long travelling the rest i can pretty much cover with the life steal (apart from boss mobs though :p)

 

I had no idea that my Rewind was actually that terrible, -30 Regen seems quite amazing considering my circumstances. To be fair, though, I didn't really get it legitimately; I got it from an Item Bomb.

 

You're aware I need to sleep, right? You made your post as I was leaving for the night.

You can if you wish. But, as it seems you don't like using the build due to the changes made to it, I see no reason why you would not switch to another build.

I would say health regen is generally a bit weaker, but somewhat more reliable now. It's far from useless, especially when combined, on items such as Skien's Paranoia or Diaminar.

100 life steal and -30 regen are the average stats. Item bombs do not affect the quality of the item.

 

I mean while would anyone use a life steal build now when it could fail them at any time, not just me.

 

Why would anyone use an agility build, it could fail them at any time.

Why would anyone use a dexterity build, it could fail them at any time.

Why would anyone use a health regen build, it might run too slowly in heated situations.

Why would anyone use a mana regen build, it regenerates slowly.

Etc...

 

Dexterity and Agility are meant to be based on RNG. Health and Mana Regen always restore at a constant rate. LIFE/MANA STEAL is NOT meant to be RNG, it's supposed to activate once every 2 seconds. People who choose Lightning or Air are choosing to take the risk, people who made life steal builds weren't supposed to rely on LUCK, they were supposed to rely on SKILL.

 

The problem is not that people won't start with a lifesteal build anymore. Point is that a build that did work fine does not anymore without warning (and without some sort of need). Quite some people (including myself) invested a lot of time and LE into such items and it is pretty much garbage now.

So far I didn't see any real supporters of the new system (not counting people who don't care about either) versus a lot of resistance, so I am not sure what is tried to be achieved here.

 

Omg so true ^^
So unfair...

 

Can't agree with you more.

 

@Selvut283

 

I have already stated I do not agree with the change to random chance as well. I am simply dealing with it instead of complaining, however.

 

You're our main connection to Salted, however. I wanted to know why life steal was changed fron skill to luck.