Dern, Ancients, Wynn Excavation, And Time Travel

Before I begin I highly recommend reading these two threads (in order):

https://forums.wynncraft.com/thread...-and-the-eye-in-wynnexcavation-site-d.112303/

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/who-are-the-ancients-what-is-the-eye-somewhat-a-theory.112752/

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So now that you have read that, welcome to the theory where I contradict everything I have been saying for the last 3 months! Maybe!

Lets begin.

So many of you probobly know that we recently found the signs in the ancient city in the jungle and all that stuff. @Rujala made his theory on it, and hats off to him, it was really good. Now I am making mine.

Now I am telling this WILL sound completely crazy. It will, I acknowledge that. But here me out.

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So. I can't think of a good intro, so lets start with our little debate about the **** sign.

"It's not darkness, it's ****"

So we have been arguing about what four letter word fits there. Evil, Dark, Dern, Life, Sexy, ect...

But I think we have basically decided that the correct word is "Time"

Just looking at it, it makes sense. Like how else are the ancients still alive since ancient times? Time Magic!

Now we get to the fun part.

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Gavel is known to have naturally strong magic, but it also has tech.

Like Wynn does not have Quart Robots, Airships, Giant Minecart Roller-coasters or Freaking Electrical Generators.

Now please don't close the thread calling me crazy.

But what if Wynn Excavation was building a time machine?

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Ok, Stop! I know what you are thinking! But I can prove that every time we see Dernic things taking effect it could be time, and how WE could and why they would want to make a time machine.

I know It's saying alot, but just listen.

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Firstly, we see 3 points where we 100% know Dernic stuff is taking place.

Lets start with Dead Island. After the Dernic Egg was brought to the island, everything became old, rotten, dead, withered. Almost like it was aging super fast. Time magic.

The Abysso Golashes caused 2 things that we know of. First, the mage counsel said they were dark magic and sunk Sarfnic or whatever the town was called. But since when is Dark Magic such a big threat? But you know what IS super powerful? Time Magic. We are told in Suspended Flowers that it's the most powerful magic in the world.

Second thing the AGs have done is caused the Dernal Mansion to rot and decay. Sounds like another time passing super fast moment.

Lastly, lets look at Dern itself. Inside Fantastic Voyage we see Dark Skeletal Warriors. Skeletal. It's not like Skeletons are made when you die or anything. And it's not like time magic could cause you to die quicker. And it's not like time magic would help preserve the skeletons from rotting. Oh wait... It is... -_-

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Ok, so lets say for now Dern is Time related and Darkness is something else. How does that have anything to do with the Ancients, WE, and the making of a Time Machine.

Well the Ancient City is where we find the darkness sign and where I will explain the time machine info, but for now lets just look at common sense.

The Ancients are just that, ancient. So how the heck are they alive for such a long time? Time magic.

Ok, now on to the fun stuff.

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What's the difference between Plutonium and Uranium? They are both highly reactive, but Plutonium is more reactive, however it has a shorter half-life.

If you were going to build a bomb to blow the ancients up, you would probobly choose a nuke, which is possible to make with Gavel tech. But I don't think they are trying to blow up the ancients. If they were, Villager tech would let them use Plutonium and do the job, and they would loose the crystal.

But why am I talking about Plutonium and Uranium if I just said they aint gonna use it? Well, in the ancient city you can find WE creates that the label says has Uranium. Why the heck does WE have uranium?!?! Credit to @jpmrocks for finding that btw.

Well you could say they are making a Uranium bomb, but we already stated that's a no go. What else could they use it for. Well, this is why I was talking about Plutonium at the beginning. If anyone here has seen Back To The Future, you know that they use Plutonium to power the time machine.

But if you want to use the time machine multiple times before burning it out, Uranium has a much longer half-life. And if you want to argue Plutonium does not exist in the world and that's why they would make a Uranium bomb but not a Plutonium one, I defend myself with the crystal argument, and you just helped my time machine case.

Why do they even need a machine if time magic is so strong? Cuz its so strong it can't be controlled. Simple as that.

Either way, Uranium is present, in the ancient city.

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Now you may not believe that Wynn Excavation is using the Uranium for a time machine. But listen to this. I also know WHY they would do it.

They worship the eye. The Ancients were fleeing from the eye. Soooo naturally if Amadel or other WE officials want to meet the Eye and get some sort of power from it, fallowing the Ancients would be a good way to go to find it.

Now, lets dig a bit deeper. Why would they build the machine in the ancient city?

Well, first of all they know the city has existed for about as long as the Ancients, so doing it in the city highly reduces the chance for re-appearing with your atoms scrambled among a tree or a rock or something, destroying the universe.

Plus if you want to fallow to where the Ancients came into Wynn, staying in their city is a pretty dang sure way to make sure you end up among them.

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So just to recap:

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Darkness could be time magic.

Uranium could be used to build a time machine.

The uranium is found in the exact right spot to build the machine.

WE has the intentions to go back in time.

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So yeah. Feel free to comment how crazy I am or how genius I am or whatever. AND I WILL BE HIGHLY ENFORCING FORUMS RULE # 9.

So yeah!



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So I know what you are thinking. If it's in Wynncraft and it's advanced tech, its most likely magic. I mean, nukes and time machines don't really fit into Wynn!

And to you I say, yes. You are 100% right. But time magic does exist to help with the time machine.

And what other explanation do we have? If WE is not building a bomb or a time machine, why the heck to they have CRATES OF FREAKING URANIUM in the ancient city!

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So it turns out the Uranium is just an easter egg meant for a mod. There goes that whole theory. I kindly ask for this thread to be closed . :)

 

sorry I just had to type this out while reading your post half way
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you said it is time magic that preserve the skeletons of the warriors in dern
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skeletons do not rot or decay naturally, you don't need anything or time magic to prevent it from decaying
skeletons and bones are made from CaP2 aka Calcium Phosphate a mineral that cannot be digested by putrifying bacterial during natural decays
evidences are ancient mummies in real life still have their skeletons, or you can find fossils in the form of bones and skeletons
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Just throwing this out there ._.

 

We all ready have a door of time and it use to be cracked open. But now it's widely open like someone went in or out.

 

Interesting, I did not know that.

But I don't they corrode over time and what not? Like when you dig up a dead body some of it is like all decayed and what not.

I trust you, but I will keep it in for now.

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I am aware the door of time is open, but I can't relate that directly right now

 

xd it's alright, the decayed part is just the flesh and skins, the skeletons remain undecay

To be scientificly correct, you can say the skeletons remain clean and strong as they can hold itself up, indicating there are time magic causing the corpses to decay quickly so the skeletons are very smooth

I'm just overthinking about things aren't I lol

 

Dude, I am talking about an evil society using uranium to make a time machine to go back in time and to another realm to go worship a giant eye.

I don't think you are the one overthinking things...

 

I Can relate to that, remember when you said they used time magic. They prob use it on the door to escape somtthing like the eye, or I correct me if I'm wrong but was the accents there before the gavel update. Because we already know they went insane I died out think....

 

I Can relate to that, remember when you said they used time magic. They prob use it on the door to escape somtthing like the eye, or I correct me if I'm wrong but was the accents there before the gavel update. Because we already know they went insane I died out think...[/QUOTE]

I was originally thinking that the door of time would be the door to Dern if we are right bout this time stuff, and it would make sense, it just does not fit into this exact time machine theory.

 

I was originally thinking that the door of time would be the door to Dern if we are right bout this time stuff, and it would make sense, it just does not fit into this exact time machine theory.[/QUOTE]
Yeah because I was thinking that s
Dern was a peaceful place before the eye came and took it away from the accents. But the accents
accents tried stopping the eye by using the eye own power but failed in doing that, like why would the eye be chasing them anyway.

 

I'm not sure if anyone in the Society knows about such developed technologies. After all, the world of Wynncraft is more based on the arcane arts.
Quartz Robots? Magic properties.
Electricity? Thunder magic.
Meteors? Cosmic magic.
I don't think it's very appropriate to connect something as scientifical as nuclear materials with a world where the Arcane rules everything. But then again, a theory is a theory.

 

Well the crates clearly say "Uranium" on them. So that's that...

Plus I guess the time machine might count as arcane time magic?

 

It could very well be.
Stone is also named stone in Wynncraft, not some "essence of gray", so something named uranium would still be called like that. Its properties, however, might be very different from what we have in Our world, and they can be, just like quartz, extremely magical.
Magic explains a lot of stuff in this world, it might as well explain the existence of uranium.

 

So that just makes no sense whatsoever. You do realize this quest fits the Wynn lore right, and time machines, make no sense. Maybe if you had gone with time magic, it would have been slightly more credible. Also I have no fucking idea what you're talking about as far as bombs are concerned because that's just so insane that I am not going to address it. Its possible that ancients could still be around due to breeding, or even the fact we don't know their lifespan. It feels like your forcing so many pieces right now. Maybe look around the world to find the right piece to the puzzle instead of trying to force one.

P.S:I don't think the four letter word means time.
P.P.S: Time isn't the answer to everything.

 

On the whole "gibberish = time" thing - If there's an i in it, the gibberish will be very thin, not wider. Like, it would shift to a |, not a &. Does this make sense?

Also, as Tyralion said, Wynncraft operates on the inverse of Clarke's third law - any highly advanced technology is magic. To make a time machine with uranium is considered highly advanced technology, and thus cannot exist in canon. Same with nukes.

Also, if WE had nukes, why didn't they just do it now? Or use the nukes on people who went against their cause, such as the player or Ragni?

Also: My first point is very important. Time as the word is not canon, and would it even make sense? Heck, let me tease something: You got the right one in your list of other things.

Time being evil doesn't even make sense. Sure, it's what lets the evil forces move along, but it also creates change. It's a primal force - to rid the world of time is to end it. If it's evil - thus wanting to be rid of it - doesn't that mean that you're ending the world? Time is a neutral force, as it spurs on both good and evil.

 

Thank you both for your responses. I understand that most core stuff is magic, including tech, but just hear me out.

Ancients, Ancient Crystals, four letter scrambled word, its all just screaming "TIME".

But that would be time magic. If there was gonna be some type of bomb, why not use it on the player? But I found it very specific that it says Uranium. I was thinking the exact same thing you just said.

"Its too technologically advanced. It does not fit in with the theme of the game. None of it would make sense in the lore."

And I 100% agree. But we do have time magic. We have the door of time. And why the heck do we have Uranium? That sounds hella advanced.

If you could find a reason why WE has crates of Uranium for use other than a time machine of for a bomb, trust me, I am all ears. But right now, I don't think any of us have a better explanation.

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I felt like this part required special addressing.

I never said time is Evil. It's just another force in the world. Something that is magical and can be harnessed and controlled.

And...

Thank you.

 

Its a reference to @Mekyr, check the numbers and letters. There are a few around the Wynn Excavation sites as ref to builders/GMs

 

If WynnExcavation knows what a nuke is, they'd have to have travelled to the future at least once, in which case they can just get a nuke themselves anyways. WynnExcavation was mining for the crystals, and even succeeded in turning Amadel into a god. If you hadn't killed Amadel as soon as possible, he probably would've been of equal power to a nuke. So then what use would trying to create a time machine be? A much more difficult backup plan? Time magic can be easily controlled anyways, without uranium. Dead Island, Erca Mansion, Selchar, even Santa's fireplace. If Time Magic can be used so easily in all of those places, I imagine it wouldn't be hard for WynnExcavation to get back to the future anyways.

Uranium sounds advanced, but it's always existed. Maybe they just named it earlier in Wynn's universe, and WynnExcavation simply happened to find some. Not every sign you see in this game is a major clue towards the lore, not every single block is going to tell you everything about the game.

 

Oh. Well that just scraps the whole entry theory.

I don't want to delete the thread due. I like to keep all my threads in case I ever want to refer back to it.

But if you could kindly close the thread, that would be great!

 

people that have worked on this are saying that you are wrong, accept it ._.

 

It just kind of jumped out at a time when we had our eyes turned towards site D. Once again, feel free to close the thread.

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I accept it. I legit have admitted defeat and asked the thread to be closed in my last like 3 responses.