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Have You Ever Realise Something Is Unfair To The Assassin

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  1. Fread

    Fread Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    Stop screaming "Fuck another assassin need buff thread"
    But really, read the whole thread.

    For archer's bomb arrow and warrior's bash, they can both stun the enemy, so is assassin's spin attack.
    But, if an archer or warrior got hit by spin attack, they can still easily get away with charge and escape.
    However, if an assassin got hit by bash or bomb arrow, he could do nothing but wait for his death.

    Can anyone explain this.
     
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  2. Devourer

    Devourer Lava Warrior VIP+

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    I can't explain it but I will point out one thing: nobody used to ever say that assassin's vanish, its mobility spell, needed a nerf. But now all the other spells and the damage and pretty much everything are changed from warrior 2.0 to what assassin should be, people say it vanish needs to be changed. I won't say that assassin needs a buff, but if it did, the last thing which needs a buff is vanish.
     
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  3. Sean__

    Sean__ Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    dont compare things to archer it's op af and really unbalanced
     
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    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    Sean__ Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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  6. jpmrocks

    jpmrocks A Lone Wanderer

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    Maybe... Maybe you just need to do better with assassin.
     
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  7. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    How many of these have you made now?
     
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    icebreaker Retired YouTuber & Full Stack Web Developer Media HERO

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    ONLY ONE BUFF CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING ...AND IT IS :
    give assassin immunity when vanished ...anything else dont change
     
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    Baezingashinga Famous Adventurer VIP+

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    Well when I get stunned I just spam spin attack eventually killing them :P
     
  10. BigMacYoshi

    BigMacYoshi Card Master of Corkus & All-Knowing Psychic VIP+

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    If assassins suck so bad then why are people using it? Also, just use op Mage ;)
     
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  11. Arreme

    Arreme Veteran, Learning Game Design VIP+

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    Well, if there is really a class preference, maybe there is a problem. Every single class have to stay at the same lvl, so is required a general rebalance. Just an opinion.
     
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  12. ashdalf

    ashdalf wagoo wagoo

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    I'm mostly satisfied with assassins, except for their damage. As a class it's definitely viable and it's a lot of fun; however, the game says assassins have the highest damage. Now this is unfair, because players expect to have a high damage output, but they do deceivingly low amounts of damage. And when it comes down to damage, you can't change your playstyle, you have to change your build. You have to sacrifice defense for offense, and that's fine and dandy. But you're an assassin, you should inherently be doing a lot of damage. You have low mobility compared to other classes, so you have to rely on your speed and dodging skills to get by. However when you have to give up stats just so you can achieve your promised damage, that is when it becomes bull shit. I've tried changing my build and playstyles multiple times, and in the end I could never achieve the amount of damage I should be doing, whilst being able to effectively dodge and dance with my enemies. In short, assassins are a fun and more skill orientated class. They are most definitely usable, but it's unfair when the game says that assassins do the most damage, but they end up not having more damage than some other classes. I believe players who chose assassin as their main, atleast deserve a damage buff for multi-hit or smoke bomb. Thank you for reading my unnecessarily formal reason as to why assassins suck so much dick.
     
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  13. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    The 5 block damage, as indicated by Salted, is their overall DPS. It is higher than Archers, despite Archers having 120% damage compared to the Assassin's 100%, because Assassins can hit multiple foes with their basic attack versus an Archer's.
     
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    ashdalf wagoo wagoo

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    What, so their melee damage determines what the game says their dps is? That's also bullshit, because melee damage does not do jack shit for assassins. Their weapons tend do be fast, and do multiple elements of damage; therefore, their melee damage sucks shit. My rewind sometimes does 0 damage with normal melee physical attacks. And honestly, what kind of assassin relies on melee damage? Who's idea was it to base a class' dps on their melee attack's ability to hit more than 1 enemy? Also mages can do the same, they can hit multiple enemies at once. Yet they still have the same 3/5 damage rating as an archer. And my lvl 75 mage who has no armor does more fucking melee damage than my lvl 87 assassin. I even tested this on my hunter, and I have to be fighting 4 enemies at once to do the same amount of damage my lvl 75 hunter does per shot. It's incredibly unreasonable to base a class' dps by it's melee damage. It's even more surprisingly stupid when it's not even true. My mage hits multiple enemies and does more damage, as a lower level and naked. And it only supposedly has 3/5 damage. What. Just. What the fuck. My assassins spin attack does almost 10k damage (well only because of me stacking ridiculous amounts of spell damage, but at the cost of having 5k hp...). So then why the hell do I need melee damage? Why is my dps represented by my melee damage? Does this make any damn sense to you? Oh, and sorry for channeling all my frustration on you...
     
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    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    I don't know; half the time I use my basic attack instead of spells and I'm utterly shredding enemies, with a thunder/air/water build.
     
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    ashdalf wagoo wagoo

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    I mean if you have enough raw SD you can just go around spin attack KOing every enemy in your face... only at the cost of everything else.
     
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    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    I think he is referring to my comment on another thread, it explains it better.
    VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
     
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    Zelefant wizard fortress will return one day HERO

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    you still need to read the thread that I linked.
     
  19. jpmrocks

    jpmrocks A Lone Wanderer

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    >In the nether.

    Ah yes, the nether arena, we all know that dictates Assassin nerfs and buffs.
     
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    MagicGum #GrimNation VIP

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    Yes, I have read it but the point I was trying to make is he is talking about the nether(where pvp happens in case you don't know). It's very different from PvE.
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    He was just pointing out something that was unfair. You guys are instantly shooting him down just because the thread title has the word assassin in it, thinking it was a pointless topic. Also, honestly if you think something needs a buff or a nerf-- post a thread, You are not obliged to click on that thread if you aren't interested. I don't even see the problem with suggestions I think they are a good read and sometimes even a good idea.
     
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