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What Is Most Likely To Get Nerfed?

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Fread, Feb 8, 2016.

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Choose! (I filtered away those unlikely ones)

  1. Heal

  2. Meteor

  3. Uppercut

  4. Smoke Bomb

  5. Arrow Storm

  6. Bomb Arrow

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  1. Fread

    Fread Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    the system isnt good enough for us to do that.
    it is not fixed to be what skill point and what build. but, the environment forces us to.
    the mana of assassin is bad, yes we can put skill points in water
    the survivability of assassin is bad, yes we can put some in fire
    the damage of assassin wouldnt stand out, ok then, lets put some in dexterity

    OH SHIT I ALMOST FORGOT WE DONT GET UNLIMITED SKILL POINTS
     
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  2. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    I cite my 100 damage weapon at Lv 42 dealing 500-800 damage with Multihits. Smoke Bomb is amazing for chipping away at opponents with evasive maneuvers, once Spin is fixed it will have amazing combo techniques and is already quite powerful in of itself...and I do not see your issue with Vanish, unless you're constantly sprinting during it my Mana just sort of bounces back and forth regenerating and draining at around the same rate. In addition, you almost never need to use Vanish for the whole 10-16 seconds of duration it gives you. You know that attacking or swapping weapons will unvanish you, so if you're getting massive mana drain for some reason, just swing or switch weapons once you're out of danger! Also, long distance travel? Horses, teleport scrolls, speed equipment, and oh look that satisfies the air-requirement!

    Archer's 120% damage is for its basic attack. Its spells in terms of their effects are more on-par with Warrior's, but due to the increased base damage they're somewhat more effective. Bomb Arrow and Arrow Shield are extremely expensive mana-wise, Escape's slam does only a basic hit's worth of damage, and Arrow Storm both recently got nerfed and inflicts massive knockback which makes it difficult to hit enemies with the whole spell.
     
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  3. Villageacules

    Villageacules Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Nothing in the topic of assassin, assassin needs a slight buff!
     
  4. Alexdacube

    Alexdacube The Cube is reborn CHAMPION

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    Ok nerf archer to 100% damage and just make archer unplayable so you assassin fanboys can make your class 120% damage and therefore op like it was before the gavel update. You guys have no idea what it was like to play as Mage before the update it's about time assassin received big nerfs to let them experience half of how bad mages were before gavel.
     
  5. Fread

    Fread Well-Known Adventurer HERO

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    have u ever played assassin and archer seriously.

    i have never seen a support dealing 500% damage spell in any other rpg
    i want to, but i couldnt get the resources. for example, as i have said in another thread of mine:
    "assassin need to consider mana steal, mana regen, health steal, health regen, poison and damage. Spreading out his power into all these parts just make him weak and vulnerable"
    1. Yes, assassin sure can deal great damage...once you get your skill points.
    2. combo huh, in order to get into the position of battle using vanish, you already used up most of your mana, how you're saying u use smoke bomb spin attack and multihit at the same time? where did the mana come from? you domt expect everyone to have 15 thousand million mana regen right, as i have quoted right above this passage "assassin need to consider mana steal, mana regen, health steal, health regen, poison and damage. Spreading out his power into all these parts just make him weak and vulnerable", even if we get good mana cost and stuff, what about all those item buff that we gave up in order to exchange for mana regen? what about our defense and damage we gave up for the mana reduction?
    3. vanish is the only spell giving us speed, without that, we would walk even slower than certain mobs, and get hit from behind.
    4. how do you use horse in a pakour that literally all classes except assassin can just skip. i am talking about mid distance travel if you dont know what im talking about.
    1. no one uses arrow shield anymore, i have never seen anyone using it at least
    2. bomb arrow bounces up 5 TIMES WITH INSANE DAMAGE AND AOE. is is suppose to get that huge mana cost
    3. surprise strike can stun enemy, you can escape during the stun
    4. you can always corner enemy while using arrow storm
    goddamn it how many times do i.have to repeat and repeat the same thing all over and all over again and again
    BEING TORTURED BY THE OTHERS FOR A YEAR DOESNT GIVE YOU THE PERMISSION TO KILL A MAN
     
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    Hajri Famous Adventurer HERO

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    Why isn't Nerfing Hajri a option?
     
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    Kraby *insert clever meme* VIP+

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    so why
    just why
    does it say in class descriptions that assassin has more damage than archer ;-;
    is it outdated?
     
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    Mage doubles as a support, and I play as archer. If you have a problem with assassin then stop playing as an assassin. Assassin is a all around class, balanced on both fronts. It is balanced.
     
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    jpmrocks A Lone Wanderer

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    Warrior as a whole, knowing our luck :(
     
  10. Geno

    Geno I enjoy chicken. VIP+

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    Warriors in PvE is pretty nice. Great tankiness, great crowd control, decent damage. In PvP though... every other class has some sort of blindness or slowness effect just to topple onto our already major slowness; furthermore, they all have decent to insane ranged attacks which just makes it pretty terrible in my opinion.
     
  11. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    Yes, and all other classes can function just as well without their skill points. This is a completely valid point you have here, yes. If you can't tell here, I'm being sarcastic; all classes rely on their skill points.
    You do not need to Vanish and walk up to enemies to 'get in position'. Just walk up to enemies and get them aggroed on you. React accordingly depending on the volume of enemies. Smoke Bomb costs 8 mana, so throw that into the mix, and circle-strafe while hitting them with your basic attack. After the Smoke Bomb ends, your mana will have fully regenerated, as for most mobs you don't need to sprint to avoid them unless you have gear that reduces speed, so Spin Attack to freeze the enemies(once that aspect is fixed) and Multihits. If you have Intel you have even more breathing room.

    In addition, you only seem to be taking into account one build when saying that Assassin is bad. Maybe if that build isn't working for you, try another one. Most mana-related items increase spell damage or have other neat little bells and whistles such as Reflection, Health Regen you hardly need to accomodate for at all unless your build is based around it, stealing ID's are often paired with poison stuff anyway(and you only need 1 poison to budget your stealing), and again, Assassin's damage appears to be generally lower because it has a fast average attack speed. You're hitting multiple times, not once. This is not the days of the unbalanced Assassin where your attacks insta-killed most enemies...oh wait, my Lv 42 weapon is putting Lv 44 enemies near to death with Multihits if it isn't killing them outright.

    Also, giving up mana regen or damage in exchange for something else...it's a little something I like to call BALANCE. You can't get everything at once; it would be ridiculously overpowered! This is why items now have drawbacks; to shy them away from certain builds, make slapping random pieces of gear together less viable, and to force different strategies depending on the downsides. For instance, enemies very well may be faster than you if you've got reduced speed, which forces you to think of other options on the fly.
    Or you could use Spin Attack to freeze enemies, or Multihits to knock them away. Most enemies do NOT walk faster than the player's basic walk speed.
    Oh, so you're complaining about parkour being unskippable? Those sections that the builders and command-blockers work so hard on just to have them get skipped or complained about by lazy people? If you're bad at parkour, practice. There's plenty of non-dangerous spots where you can.

    1) You don't see people using it because it's so prohibitively expensive. It's a precautionary measure or a panic-button, not something to have up all the time. Strategic use has been forced.
    2) The ricocheting of the Bomb Arrow is actually quite random. It can bounce up to five times, or it can just hit an enemy once and stop, or it might bounce away from all the action. The area of effect of Bomb Arrow is smaller than it might seem, as well.
    3) We weren't talking about the stunning effect; you specifically cited that it dealt massive damage, which just isn't true.
    4) And the spell has been nerfed significantly, exactly because of this.
     
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    Paks Spy Main

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    As of right now my archer can literally bypass most high spell costs but at the cost of alot of Skill points as my archer is currently water/air based. I haven't played much Wynncraft but from what i'm hearing arrow storm has been nerfed to a point where its only useful in small spaces and well that kinda makes it impossible to use as a massive damage dealer due to the fact that archers have 60% defense and get shredded alive by any mob.
     
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    Nobody would play a 100% support class.
     
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    IggyBoii I Have No Idea What Im Doing VIP

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    WHY MAKE THIS, NOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO NERF HEAL its not op...
     
  15. Ventus333

    Ventus333 Xaldinite, Adventurer, and Mage.

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    Thank @Selvut283 for sticking up for the archers :)
     
  16. Selvut283

    Selvut283 Circadian rhythm stuck on Tokyo time ♪ Music GM

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    You mean the Assassins.
     
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    Sean__ Famous Adventurer CHAMPION

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    Yeah.... the one shot you because why not class
     
  18. xCart

    xCart Traveling Merchant

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    So yeh... They're going to nerf me....
     
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    Shoefarts I fart on shoes

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    Ikr, all the other classes are just salty that mages don't have to buy potions. If you want a quick way to heal yourself for free, get ~100 lifesteal and some poison. <-- Works great when you're facing a group of mobs.
     
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    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

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    I would, it could be really fun and I could make lots of money from helping people.
     
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