Dismiss Notice
Wynncraft, the Minecraft MMORPG. Play it now on your Minecraft client at (IP): play.wynncraft.com. No mods required! Click here for more info...

SPOILER The Inconsistency!

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by jpmrocks, Feb 6, 2016.

?

Who is wrong?

  1. Craftmas Chaos

    19 vote(s)
    26.4%
  2. The Weapon

    14 vote(s)
    19.4%
  3. Sister City

    12 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. You are, JPM

    27 vote(s)
    37.5%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. SPYROHAWK

    SPYROHAWK Head Grand Theorist HERO

    Messages:
    3,743
    Likes Received:
    4,302
    Trophy Points:
    192
    Minecraft:
    @L179

    Just a few things to point out.

    What is one thing that both cities have as a prominate feature? The hourglass.

    We know a Detlas was built at t-100 to t-60

    We also know that the Selchar hourglass was built after t-30

    In sister city, the whole point of the quest is to refill the hourglass, and to teach the player bout Selchar.

    So we can probably assume one of the main things that was "inspired" by Selchar is the Detlas hourglass

    ---

    So we know that during the building of Detlas they were inspired by the hourglass in Selchar.

    The Selchar hour glass was built 100% after t-30

    In the old lore with Detlas being built after t-10, it's a fine thing to supposed that was a proper timeline

    But with the new lore where Detlas is built t-100 to t-60, it can not be right.

    ---

    Is my argument correct? Or do I need to go on. Cuz I do have more stuff.

    ---

    On a unrelated pint, Selchar also had an Inconcistancy in the old lore. Villagers come at t-10 and Selchar has villagers in it at t-30
    ________________________________
    The whole argument is if it's inconcistant or not. So your point number one is basically what we are arguing over
     
  2. jpmrocks

    jpmrocks A Lone Wanderer

    Messages:
    971
    Likes Received:
    1,150
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Minecraft:
    The only issue I have about Detlas not being finished is that the villagers are all about the money, almost leaving Wynn to die to the Corruption because they had no money (until one soldier accidentally dropped a bag of emeralds). If it involved money, I'm pretty sure the villagers wouldn't've stopped building. The founding building wasn't mysterious burned down, it was struck by lightning. And Selchar didn't have an hourglass when it was being built.

    I think it was the fact the Staff messed up, hence the inconsistency. Tho, the source of inconsistency IMO is Sister City, but it could really be Detlas' Legacy, or Craftmas Chaos (and I think a mod or admin said it was CC, but that was a while ago).
     
  3. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

    Messages:
    13,439
    Likes Received:
    28,735
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    You all forget the staff said that the craftmass chaos quest lore is incorrect.
     
    XavierEXE and Kahsol like this.
  4. jpmrocks

    jpmrocks A Lone Wanderer

    Messages:
    971
    Likes Received:
    1,150
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Minecraft:
    But here, in the theory world, it's kill or be killed.
     
    Kahsol likes this.
  5. Kahsol

    Kahsol Local Serial Liker

    Messages:
    2,790
    Likes Received:
    10,153
    Trophy Points:
    207
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    To add on, the villager lore itself needs tweaking, and its one of, if not the most, important lore, so what makes you think every other piece of lore will be right?
    ________________________________
    Oh ok. *stabs in heart*
     
  6. jpmrocks

    jpmrocks A Lone Wanderer

    Messages:
    971
    Likes Received:
    1,150
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Minecraft:
    Yes, but that was like, 6 months ago at least, and still nothing's been done. Also, I wish I could cite that from somewhere for the OP, but I think it was lost in the forum wipes.

    The villager lore for sure needs tweaking, (if I did my homework right, the Gavel and Villager lore we got is half done) but still.
     
  7. L179

    L179 *Insert original custom title here*

    Messages:
    446
    Likes Received:
    154
    Trophy Points:
    62
    Minecraft:
    Still the hourglass in detlas may have been inspired by the unfinished one in selchar.
    Quote from wki " a very similar hourglass" the hourglass in selchar didn't need to be complete for the ppl in detlas to base their hourglass on the basic design of the one in selchar.
     
  8. DarkDemonDragon

    DarkDemonDragon Sorta Veteran

    Messages:
    565
    Likes Received:
    690
    Trophy Points:
    89
    Minecraft:
    Wiki descriptions are NOT 100% accurate unless you're refering to direct quotes from quests. (This was proven by @SPYROHAWK when he pointed out that the Wiki called Qira a human which was later fixed). Using the quest quote I mentioned earlier:
    • Lil: Fortunately, Detlas was built based on an already existing city, named Selchar.
    Based on a CITY not the hourglass. This means (as I said earlier) ALL of Detlas is based on ALL of Selchar (unless there is a mistake which is what we're pointing out).
     
    Gogeta likes this.
  9. L179

    L179 *Insert original custom title here*

    Messages:
    446
    Likes Received:
    154
    Trophy Points:
    62
    Minecraft:
    Based doesn't mean copied which is what you are implying .
    Definition of base : use (something specified) as the foundation or starting point for something.
    And i'm obviously quoting quest dialogue which is correct 99.99% of the time unless there's a typo and they got 1 letter wrong or something.
     
    McMasterx likes this.
  10. Yuno F Gasai

    Yuno F Gasai Forum God, FW

    Messages:
    13,439
    Likes Received:
    28,735
    Trophy Points:
    227
    Guild:
    Minecraft:
    if detlas is based on selchar they will take something more than just the hourglass, that's like me baking a cake and saying an omelet was my inspiration because it also has eggs in it.
     
    Chino and jpmrocks like this.
  11. jpmrocks

    jpmrocks A Lone Wanderer

    Messages:
    971
    Likes Received:
    1,150
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Minecraft:
    "Based doesnt mean copied which is what you are implying"


    Based means based, which he is implying. If we ever were to implying copying, we would've said copied. But we're saying based.
     
  12. L179

    L179 *Insert original custom title here*

    Messages:
    446
    Likes Received:
    154
    Trophy Points:
    62
    Minecraft:
    Okay , can we have an example of what else detlas based off of selchar , because that might help to prove this inconsistency .
     
  13. DarkDemonDragon

    DarkDemonDragon Sorta Veteran

    Messages:
    565
    Likes Received:
    690
    Trophy Points:
    89
    Minecraft:
    Stop pulling words out of your butt. How did I imply copy when the word base was in my post several times @_@
    To be honest if it weren't for sister city I don't think anyone would think the 2 had any relation since the layouts is completely different. One has the hourglass right in the center and the other has one off to the side.
     
    Gogeta likes this.
  14. L179

    L179 *Insert original custom title here*

    Messages:
    446
    Likes Received:
    154
    Trophy Points:
    62
    Minecraft:
    I certainly wouldn't i know that much.
    "ALL of Detlas is based on ALL of Selchar" That is implying copying IMO but w/e.
     
  15. BlahBlah161616

    BlahBlah161616 Light Theme User

    Messages:
    2,598
    Likes Received:
    2,799
    Trophy Points:
    108
    Guild:
    I was in an arguement?
     
  16. jpmrocks

    jpmrocks A Lone Wanderer

    Messages:
    971
    Likes Received:
    1,150
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Minecraft:
    Well, maybe unintentionally ;)
     
    XavierEXE likes this.
  17. XavierEXE

    XavierEXE ♪ Wynncraft's Composer and Ability Tree Lead ♫ ♪ Music Item Team CHAMPION

    Messages:
    6,492
    Likes Received:
    22,035
    Trophy Points:
    215
    Minecraft:
    I just quoted everyone that suggested an idea that had a counter-argument.
     
  18. BlahBlah161616

    BlahBlah161616 Light Theme User

    Messages:
    2,598
    Likes Received:
    2,799
    Trophy Points:
    108
    Guild:
    "Selchar was under construction when we went back in time"
    "Counter arguement"


    Don't see it...
     
  19. L179

    L179 *Insert original custom title here*

    Messages:
    446
    Likes Received:
    154
    Trophy Points:
    62
    Minecraft:
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2016
  20. DarkDemonDragon

    DarkDemonDragon Sorta Veteran

    Messages:
    565
    Likes Received:
    690
    Trophy Points:
    89
    Minecraft:
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.