SPOILER All Of The Mythic Daggers - Damages , Cons And Pros , Choose The One That Fits Your Build

Revamped thread
btw all of those concider average ids and they count ANY damage that can buff the weapon for
NOTE: i was calculating the elemtal damage and THAN i added up the neutral
for example strentgh on grimtrap or defense (fire damage) on inferno
OK lets start first of all
all of those stats are DPS meaning its damage the weapons deal every second of constant hitting or when you use a spell its "the 100% of the spell damage"
Inferno - 1663.82-2044.953 (fire damage)
average- 1854.3865
NOTE - The dagger has the highest DPS but its only fire damage so it can get very weak against certain mobs/bosses But the dagger gives a big increase in health overall defense and some walk speed at the cost of water defense mana regen and health regen

Weathered- 1125.2-1899 (neutral and air damages)
average - 1512.35
NOTE- The dagger has decently high DPS and it has high movement speed but when you actually take damage and the agility fail you , you take massive amounts of damage + this dagger has a pretty big diffrences in damages so you can deal pretty low damage in one hit and much higher in another

GrimTrap - 1512-1926.4 (neutral and earth damages)
average - 1719.2
NOTE-grimtrap has an average of 750 poison damage that is increased by the strength that you have to put for using this dagger and insane life steal , that comes at the cost of pretty slow attack speed and negative mana steal (aka its bad for spells but good for melee)

Archangel- 680.8-754.4 (air damage)
average- 717.6
NOTE- this dagger has pretty low damage and low defense BUT it has insane movement speed


this thread shows us inferno has the highest damage BUT its only elemetal damage so it can get way worse against enemies that are defensive against fire

grimtrap can out damage inferno but its OVER TIME because of the poison

if needed i will add a photo of all my calculations

 

For weapons like Weathered, they ace neutral dmg involved, which would also be increased if you invest in strength besides the skill point the weapon require. It would be good if you included your build when you were testing out the dps for each weapon :)

 

I am calculating it with only skill points for the weapon included
If someone has strength he could easily calculate it him self but yea i might do so

 

thread completed :333

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btw i will do one for another class if people want me to

 

oooh nice thread, thx

 

Cause I was thinking that the weathered for example can have an additional 1k+ dmg if he invested in strength as well, increasing the dps exponentially.

 

If possible could you do one for mage?

 

@Kraby so I think you meant fits instead of feets in your title

 

oopsy :p

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yea damage can be upgraded
BUT this is the minimum damage you will have on every dagger with average ids :3

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sure
will start working on it tomorrow :)

 

Am I that one guy who plans to, if I ever get round to finishing mage and warrior first, use Archangel if I find it? Ok, it has low damage, but that walk speed is what every assassin should have. I mean:
100+40=140% speed
So what is the point of calculating that? Well, vanish gives you speed 3 soooooooo....
140x1.6[aka +60% of the new speed]=224% speed
That means that with a good, or even a mediocre Archangel, you do x2 walk speed. And with a really good one and vanish combined, YOU WILL GET FREAKING WALK SPEED 7. But if, on the other hand, you get a really bad Archangel, you only get speed 4. But even that is better than speed 3, which is normal vanish speed after you get the speed bonus from it.

 

imo i think weathered is pretty much better at everything
it has so much more damage and better bonuses
max walk speed on weathered is 26% and on archangel is like 41%
if you get a 22%+ walk speed weathered its gonna be pretty much like a slightly bad archangel which is still nice
also the thing is that with vanish on you ran out of mana in a second

 

Must have miscalculated, Archangel max speed level with vanish is speed 6. But still, speed 4-6 is better than like 3-4.

 

You should add the poison into the DPS for GrimTrap.

 

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I'm pretty sure he did, that's why it's Dps was higher than inferno

 

Can you please include attack speed? Attack speed I believe is a multiplier when it comes to spells.

 

so this is ALL the daggers?
fml archers have 5

 

Are you sure because it looks pretty low

 

i did actually include attack speed
this is the DPS meaning the damage per a second , so if a dagger can hit twice per a secon for example fast speed attack hits 2.3 times a second than after finishing the calculations i doubled the damage by 2.3

i didnt include it BUT its because its damage per second , i did say in the notes that it has 750 poison on average so just add 750 damage to the weapon alltho since poison takes 3 seconds to fully effect it doesnt count as Dps so i didnt add it in

 

I'm not certain of this but it would make sense to me if there were a thunder dagger and water dagger both yet to be found. For instance look how long it took for someone to find the first Idol (water mythic spear)!