SPOILER 99% Foolproof Bob Theory

So. Many, and I mean MANY threads have been going up about Bob recently. It started with @jpmrocks, then me, then @noelscrap. Now I am back again to give you a theory on Bob so solid, so perfect, so foolproof, there will legit be NO loose ends whatsoever.

Most of my good concepts and theories are made in a few hours. Some of the bad ones are made in about half an hour. This is the work of a few days of accumulative study. I will try not get this all in before the 24400 character limit hits. In order to do that, I can not include the Bob lore here. It can however be found here: https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/a-few-things-we-may-have-skimmed-over-about-bob.107132/

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Spoiler: Table Of Contents

Spoiler: Tl;dr

Bob Is Dernic

Early History and Bob's Appearance

What We Know About Dern

Dernic Stone Stuff

AGs

Putting It All Together

Conclusion

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Early Histrory and Bob's Appearence

Bob's Mom is said in the official lore to have given birth to Bob in Ragni's Sewers. She did not tell anyone her name. She was not from Ragni, and she died giving birth to Robert.

Robert was adopted by Momo. His skin was a shade of grey, which was strange compared to the fair-skinned people of Ragni.

So Far We Have:

Bob's Mom was not from Ragni. She also died giving birth to Bob

Bob's skin was grey.

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What We Know About Dern

We know Dern is dark. We can safely say that with no assumptions. We pretty much know that the place you go to during fantastic voyage is Dern. We had another thread about that and the decision was pretty unanimous.

So let's judge Dern by what we see there. A hella ton of Black and Purple. Great, black and purple. What else we got?

So Far We Have:

Dern is Black and Purple themed.

The place you go to during Fantastic Voyage is Dern

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Dernic Stuff

S0 we do have a few items that either are Dernic, or we can call Dernic. Although Dernian is the more common name, it turns out Dernic is the correct one.

The Abysso Galoshes (which I will go more into in the next section) are made from Dernic stone.

Wait, we said Dern was black and purple. Right? Look at the description of the daggers Bob uses in his lore. Black with purple markings. When they turn into a bow, black. When it turns into a staff, black with purple markings. How 'bout the spear? Black was well.

So Far We Have:

The AGs were Dernic (important for the next section)

The weapon Bob uses during his training is Dernic

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Abysso Golashes

So. The AGs. We do not know much about these boots, but what we do know is important.

Firstly, they contain dark magic. Such Dark Magic that the mage counsel sunk a whole village just for being in possession of the boots. Wait, did the lore day Dark Magic? Heres the exact quote:

A pair of boots, made from a black material fashioned from the stone of an evil place, incredibly dark magic.

Black material coming from the stone of an Evil place. Dark Magic. Sounds Dernic.

On top of that (I can not find the exact quote, but I might have it soon) the item lore says fashioned from Dernic stone. (Telling us the correct word is Dernic, not Dernian)

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Anyway, other things bout the boots. There are two stories you hear about how the Delnar Family managed to get the boots.

• Ferndor: Nobody knows why they decided to hide the boots just after they got into my families hands. I was told they were acquired from a strange man with pale grey skin.

• Grandon: Here, our family bought them from "a dark and mysterious humanoid creature" a long time ago.
• Grandon: The boots were so valuable that the creature as part of the deal decided to put some kind of spell on them.

One story he have a grey skinned man. The other we have a dark and mysterious humanoid creature. Either Bob or an Otherworldly Inhabitant (The endermen we see in Dern during the Fantastic Voyage)

So Far We Have:

The AGs are very powerful, and have a spell on them that makes the mansion decay.

The AGs are Dernic in Origin

The AGs were either sold by Bob or a Dernian Enderman thing(I assume that what you call someone from Dern)

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Tie It All Together

So this was my thought process:

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Why is Dern a far off dark land but not a province? Cuz it's negative effect (darkness) has already taken over the province.

Their hero did not come. The player will be too late. The beast has already taken over the province.

Bob was going to be a hero. But in order for him not to get killed by the beast when he was born, his Mom (still pregnant) fled to Wynn. She came to Ragni. But Problems in Wynn were more pressing for Bob that going to Dern, which he never actually has been to.

By the time he fixed all he could in Wynn, he was 72. He went back to Dern to fight the beast. He failed. Since he lived all of his life in Wynn, that's where his tomb is and where his animals stayed.

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So. Let me explain what you just read using the stuff we talked about.

Bob's mom was not from Ragni. She gave birth a child with grey skin. The child then became a hero in the province what was his home, using Dernic weapons. He was so skilled with these weapons because they were from the same province as he was originally from. By the time he realized he realized he was Dernic and was destined to fight the Beast terrorizing Dern, he was already age 72. So he wrote the letters to Nilrem and challenged the beast. And lost.

So why are the AGs important? Well, we have two versions of how the family got them. One version is basically extra proof they are Dernic. Plus all the other links to the boots being Dernic. The second links them to Bob. This basically is another link to Bob and Dern.

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Conclusion

So I wanted to use this section to clarify some extra questions you might have, as well as bring up the one and only question this explanation does not answer.

Q: Momo gave Bob the daggers. Not his Mom. If they are Dernic and meant for Bob, how did Momo get them?

A: Well, remember who Momo is. A super poor baker. Why would a poor person adopt a child if they can barley keep themselves fed? Well, cuz Momo was friends with Bob's Mom. Why else. Which also explains why she kept the daggers all hidden up. Cuz she did not want any links between her and Bob's mom getting exposed.


Q: But Dernic stuff is black, not grey.
A: Was @Rujala put it: I don't think everything in Dern is black. It just doesn't turn from the normal colour to black in an instant. I think that it makes a small progress. Like normal to darker. Basically, it was not suddenly black. The darkness makes things darker over time. And since Bob was only in Dern in his mother's womb, it would make sense that he is only light grey

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So what's the one question this does not answer?

Well the question involves Bob, but not having the answer does not in any way contradict this theory. The only part we do not know is who Nilrem is. But that's not really important to this theory.

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So as always leave a comment telling me what you think. I know this sounds a bit far fetched at first, but if you look over the facts, it actually seems pretty probable.

 

This was already known by the community but a great thread indeed! A theory over this was made by somone in the old forums whose and I can't quite remember. There might be some people who didn't know due to the amount of time that has gone by without us discussing this, so this will teach them something new for sure!

 

From all the recent bob threads this has never come up. I also have never seen this from any of the other times we have talked about Dern. I am sorry if it is repetitive, I was unaware.

 

Hardly repetitive. The post I'm talking about is quite old so you're not in the wrong. Either way, you figured it out by yourself.

Also, your thread definitely goes into more detail than the old one, so don't delete it or anything. Hardly anyone has heard the theory in a while so your practically the first in terms of everyone new who's came to Wynncraft.

 

what? where? when?

 

If he did not loose, he would still be alive

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Of all the assumptions I make, THATS the one you get stuck on?

 

It doesn't have to be Dern we visit in Fantastic Voyage. Although it could be. Like seriously, otherworldly inhabitants and ruins?! What place would it else be? It can't be a realm. Because humans/villagers doesn't live in realms. If this was a realm, the otherworldly inhabitants lived there. But "otherworldly"... Dern is a dark far off land. But still a "province"... I wonder...

When the people came across Dern in the abandoned mines, they didn't find the new province, but a portal to Dern! Welp, what am I doing this is a theory about Bob coming from Dern.


Wait, if Bob's mother came from Dern that must mean she went from the Abandoned Mines to Ragni... why didn't she want to stay in Detlas?

I got it. She wanted to warn the king about the corruption in Dern?

 

If he was adopted then he wouldn't have grey skin. Bob is most likely a human, as his mother must've been. Why would her skin be grey? If he was adopted by a stranger or friend why would he have their features or properties? Humans are humans. Their skin is white, tan, brown, or a shade of the three.

 

What? His mother gave him birth, and he had gray, pale skin...

 

I haven't read the lore since before 9/7.

 

Deltas was not built until after the villagers came. And I thought we all agreed that was indeed Dern

His mother died in the ragni sewers giving birth to him. His mother was not from ragni (I am theorizing she's from Dern)

He was then adopted by Momo.

 

Could've been from Fruma or somewhere outside of Ragni.

 

Welcome to the rest of the thread!

 

RIP Dern 2014

 

what? didn't grian say its still considered a province?

 

Hold up. I've got it

 

or gave up on purpose?

 

So basically it's a far off dark land. By still consider it a province I assume he means shape, size, cities, ect. But lore wise it's not really.

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In which case he would still be dead

 

There is no lore for Dern as of yet. Its barely mentioned.

 

That, that is where you are wrong. This all. This is all lore regarding Dern. Fantastic voyage? Yep. Anything that has to do with the storyline is lore. Cities, shapes, sized, mobs, not so much. But any time we make a theory about storyline, that's lore right there

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And trust me. I have done too many Dern threads (3-5 by now) to not have learned how much "barley mentioned" really is