My Thought On The Assassin Nerf.

Hello,

I'd like to talk about the assassin nerf, and I'd also like to know what you guys think of it aswell.
So, let's start.

Also, because assassin was way too OP, it does not mean that it has to be underpowered now.


I am maining knight. And I did go for assassin right before the update, to try it.

Assassin, this time, was very OP.
Now, after the update, I main assassin because I like how the class works, but, I feel like it was over nerfed.

Assassin deserved a nerf, but they nerfed it too much.


I feel that some 'new features' or 'bug', are making it underpowered, in addition of the lack of damage.


Spin attack:
Now randomly moves your enemies.
This may not look like a nerf, but, it actually moves enemies hit by it, in your direction, and you may get hurt by them without being able to dodge their hits using minecraft movement mechanics.

Smoke bomb:
Now randomly moves on the ground, miss it's hits most of the time, so, it is basically useless to use it.

Multi hit:
It is dealing almost no damage. Spin attack is more useful, and cost way less hunger.

Shadow travel:
No change.


I think assassin could use some fixes, and some damage buff. If we keep going that way, assassin is going to be a bruiser class, instead of a squishy and high damage dealing class.

Thank you for reading, and excuse me for my poor grammar, english is not my native language.

 

Spin attack → Spin attack
Smoke bomb → Fart
Multi hit →Tickle hard
Shadow travel → Wait... wasn't it vanish??

 

Uh.....I currently have a lvl 80 Assasin and it's still good. So idk what you're talking about.....

 

@Thyras accurate post, and if you have the relic daggers the multi-hit does loads of damage :)

 

Yeah its true, i got hit almost everytime i used spin-attack. But i feel like using spells is my only dammage output now, since basic attacks deal no dammage anymore :}

 

Most of the Things seem to be Buggy, same to mages ice spell, that no longer stunns People and is just useless now

 

Spin Attack: I can confirm that this is a bug. The old 1.7 Spin Attack would give enemies a speed buff over 127, which would have a reverse effect. However, in 1.8, which the server is fully, this has been fixed. The enemies AI tells them to walk towards any nearby players, and so when given this speed buff, run toward you, often passing, and then run back. Due to the insane speed buff, they can deal a lot of damage.

Smoke Bomb: This is due to the extreme amount of lag on the servers. The game cannot really handle where to keep the bomb in the air, so shifts it around, and occasionally "Fast Forwards" its time, stopping its activation.

Multihit: Multihit was supposedly "Broken" before, doing 2000% Damage (I'm pretty sure it didn't but this isn't my point). I believe Multihit was meant to do 25% Damage each hit, totalling 250% Damage, however, this has been changed to 15%.

Vanish / Shadow Clone: The only change with this is that the increased Mana consumption rate makes Shadow Travel almost useless due to how fast you lose Mana and become unable to run. Before Gavel, you could use all of 16 seconds and only use 2 Hunger (1 Shank) upon cast, and 4 (2 Shanks) after running; after Gavel, you can barely reach 10 seconds before you're unable to sprint.

I'd also like to thank you for making a formal thread, instead of just ranting about what you dislike like other parts of the community.

Shadow Travel is the Grade 3 Upgrade to Vanish / Shadow Clone. This gives Speed 3, Jump Boost 2 and increases the time to 16 seconds.

 

Actually smoke bomb is currently not broken because of lag :) My friend who mains assassin noticed it yesterday suddenly after we had played for multiple hours, we asked around and turns out the same problem had appeared for other assassins too (within a couple hours time, probably because the servers had to restart for the bug to take place). I think the devs pushed a faulty update and even mods confirmed that it was not meant to happen. (It happened on every single server, even fresh that had like 10 players and 0% lag)

 

I had no idea, since I only recently unlocked it. I seldom use it because of the lag (and issues I presented with it), so thanks for informing me.

 

I am talking about low level assassin. As I said earlier, I just started to main it. Also, yes, assassin is still good if used well, and I do not know for high level, however, I am simply requesting a fix/buff for low level, as it is too squishy and do not that much damage. (at low level, I do not know for high level).

Ha ha, also, for shadow travel, I was referring to vanish, but, I didn't remember the name of that spell. (I am using Ninja).

Thank you. Also, assassin may be still good at high levels because of the IDS, as I said earlier, I do not have the point of view of a high level assassin.

Thank you for explaining me that in detail. :)

 

I haven't noticed this at all, and I main assassin. So, either I'm blind, or everyone else is crazy.

 

I think multihit is fine, as it can work excellently for single-target crowd control.

Smoke bomb feels extremely buggy and generally bad to use.

Spin attack is basically suicide unless you're around lower level enemies.

 

This is why assassin is 'under powered' now.

Also, multi hit can be used for multi target crowd control if used well, but, it's damage are not that good (at low level at first)


I dueled a lot of peoples of my level, archers killed me in one attack, while with two multi hits, one spin attack, and a lot of basic attacks, I didn't even killed them.
And smoke bomb is useless since it often to not say always, miss it's hit.

Anyway, I just feel like assassin is very underpowered at my level. And I know it, because when I was knight, or even archer, at this level I was doing way better than the actual assassin.


I think that multi hits rely too much on dexterity/ strength to deal it's damage, but at low level, you don't have much dexterity / strength. (unless you put everyting on dexterity/strength).

 

Well I agree.

The only overpowered thing about assassin was multihit in PVP, outside of that he was most definitely on par with the other classes.

 

Multi hit was also very good in PvE, but, I do agree with you.

What I love with assassin is it's skill cap, not his power, however, it is way harder now to use it than the other classes.

 

Works for me.

 

I'm a level 78 assassin and I cannot kill any quest boss that has health more than about 20,000 without dying or having an overpowered archer basically kill it for me. I don't know how you seem to be fine.......
I have a few of the best weapons I can get for this level, and I also have mana/health regen and mana/health steal on armor and weapons, and I still can't do much without dying. Before the Gavel update, I was doing just fine, and I wouldn't die from nearly everything. There needs to be a fix for assassins.... I can't kill anything anymore.

 

i feel like assassins need more dmg with the multihit ability :P

 

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well vanish now drains mana 2x the speed
and smoke bomb only last like 2 seconds
multihit still low as hell damage, they probably forgot that fatality can knock enemy super far away making the players really hard to catch up and do combo
and spin attack, not that big of a deal just one thing very annoying is that THE STUN EFFECT AFFECTS YOURSELF TOO SOMETIMEs

well just let it be the dev wont fix the assassin class anyway no matter how hard we try and ask