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What Is The Point Of Soul Points?

Discussion in 'Wynncraft' started by Shanaaro, Dec 23, 2015.

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  1. Shanaaro

    Shanaaro . HERO

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    You see, I'm trying to play through a character with a char that can't use armor and can only use common weapons so I can see how far I can go before the probable forfeit. This would be fine, but with this kind of play you need at least a good weapon. This made me think; why did they add Soul Points? I don't get why you'd make a game and then have a feature which, at times, actively discourages them from playing it. On my archer, I mess around sometimes, and sometimes I try lava parkour, and sometimes lag gets me, and I have to wait for my soul points to regen when I want to play the game now. I've heard of people lose tons of time to farming something then dying with no soul points, and I'm just like 'Why should this happen to people?'. It may be fun for some people, but it isn't for others.
     
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    eeveelution Wynn Veteran/OG VIP+

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    So there's a penalty for dying. IMO, you should be able to buy soul points with emeralds depending on your level. So if you die at level 10 you can buy a soul point for like 1 EB or something, and at level 70 you'd pay 10 EB maybe.
     
  3. Cruuk

    Cruuk yopyop HERO

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    You just want to run into high level territory without any worries, don't you?
     
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    Shanaaro . HERO

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    No. I want to be able to play whenever I want. Running into high level territory isn't interesting for me except to look at the scenery, and when I do go into high level territory I don't fight/get killed. I have a lvl 43 Archer in Kandon-Beda, and he wasn't hard to get there at all.
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    Penalty for dying should be 'lose emeralds'. Inconvenient, but you can play on. That's what I like to see in a penalty.
     
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    Devourer Lava Warrior VIP+

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    Soul points deter people from getting themselves killed all the time. Otherwise you could grind and die as many times as you could but you lose nothing. With the fact that if you lose all your soul points you lose all your stuff, the player can no longer abuse deaths. Now they try not to get themselves killed. They could just add this all the time but then everyone would complain and say the game was too hard. So they added soul points.
     
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    To add difficulty to the game. Me being me, I never die and only have fewer soul points when I use /kill or use scrolls. :)
     
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    Shanaaro . HERO

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    It doesn't add difficulty to the game. Number of soul points doesn't make you more powerful. It just prevents you from playing the game without fear of losing lots of work, basically preventing it.
     
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    org36 Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    The point of Soul Points is probably so people will actually be smart about how they're going to kill mobs instead of just thoughtlessly dying, respawn and just run back to kill mobs. If there's no repercussion from dying it's basically a free heal-fest for /kill as well. Finally, once you die you'll respawn back at a town. No repercussions mean you can just die and end up at a town when you're just too lazy to run back. Yeah....no.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, you need Soul Points to use teleport scrolls as well, but I don't think you're trying to talk about that.
     
  9. Shanaaro

    Shanaaro . HERO

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    But it's a bad system for penalties. Just make you lose money or something, maybe lose XP.
     
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    org36 Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    Money? What if you don't have any on you? Oh good, your items are gone since you stashed all your wealth in the bank. *sarcasm*

    XP? Now, is this going to be a set amount of XP or a scaled amount per level? Because a set amount would mean the higher leveled players don't care at all about dying and the lower levels....well, their xp progress may be one in one death. A scaled amount, on the other hand, makes it a pain for the higher leveled players instead. This is because xp required to level up in higher levels is extremely high and losing one entire bar of xp is basically another 20 minutes of xp grinding.

    EDIT: Speaking of which, Soul Points is actually a pretty good system. It doesn't affect you negatively in any way if you die (which what you said does affect you) and all you have to do to recover your points is to not die for 2 minecraft days. Easy enough if you don't just charge into a mob of monsters every day.
     
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    sjuka_legogubbar Well-Known Adventurer VIP+

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    Why dont we respawn over and over again IRL? This add dificulty in the way that you cant just rush and see how far you come and do the same over and over again to win, instead you have to think tactically to not die. Its not hard to stop play at 1-2 souls, but the hard part is to never get down to 1-2 souls. It makes the game a bit more realistic but still not boring (life if you lost your stuff every time you died).
     
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    iShockMC A Wynncraft Veteran CHAMPION

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    Guys stop. Soul Points were the starting item of wynncraft. Soul points are mean't to challenge you and they are mean't to make you a little better at PvE.
    Drop the discussion. Soul points are NEVER being removed. EVER!
    Ask Jumla I'm pretty sure he'll say "No, soul points are NEVER being removed!"
    If you don't like soul points, then do all us a favor and quit. We need soul points to challenge ourselves.
    Like on other games you have lives. Works like Soul points.
    You're data saves at where you left off. When you hit 0 lives. "Game Over"
    Just like soul points, once you hit 0 soul points then you'll keep your level but you'll lose your inventory. But you WILL keep your bank!
    So just drop it. For the second time Soul points are NEVER EVER EVER getting removed....








    NEVER!
    EVER!
     
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  13. Shanaaro

    Shanaaro . HERO

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    oh god yeah i forgot that wynncraft is basically real life
    gg guys case closed
     
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    ThrowingChildren Well-Known Adventurer VIP

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    Let me go to high places and make the game boring, what's the point of grinding without soul points...? Pointless.
    Waste your time here, this won't/ever get removed no matter how hard you try.
     
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    Ok lol. Meant more like symbolic, they want it realistic. And therefore just a x amount of deaths before you die for real. Not gonna take it this far but: its like you get hurt badly, and then you go to a hospital. After you have been hurt your weaker for a while right? But then you get hurt again before your fully healed. If you get hirt over and over again you will suddenly die.... In wynn you die and die and you will suddenly lose your soul too. Derp forget about this, school is just some derp that learns chilla to write crap :V.
     
  16. The_AwesomeLlama

    The_AwesomeLlama 2 kool 4 u

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    I think originally it was mainly because you could buy soul points with GC. By now I think it works well as giving an exit point to the player. Now that your SP regens once per hour when you're offline, it encourages players to take a break if they've been dying so much so that they don't get burned out.

    Also to encourage planning and the use of potions so that dying is worse. SP makes deaths more significant, this way you sometimes have to give more thought about wether you should just go in willy nilly or maybe take the chance to stock up on potions and such.
     
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    I wish soul points were lowered to only 3 lives each day and not be able to acquire them offline. Tbh that would be a good challenge
     
  18. Devourer

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    SP regen is also affected by some items btw.
     
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    Adds difficulty to the game.. period. Makes you not want to die, what does that do? Add difficulty to the game
     
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    Kahsol Local Serial Liker CHAMPION

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