Double Xp For Vips Feedback - Part 2!

VIP purchasing may not be a majority of their income right now, however if this was implemented then it likely would be a majority of the income for the server.
If you can't understand that Wynn running out of money=No more Wynn then you're a bit hopeless.

 

What don't you understand?, if you want to talk about Gold Coins then by all means do, on another thread. :P

 

I failed to comprehend how a "small portion" of WynnCraft income would decide whether the server lives or not.

here, maybe this would help.

The second part of your question is addressed at the first part of this post.

Bonus resource;

 

Well even if a "small portion" of Wynncrafts income doesn't decide whether or not it stays up then at least we know the GM's did all they could to try and increase income.

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-the-face-adversity/201103/catastrophic-thinking
not welcome here

 

Whats not welcome here? If you mean me then I don't understand why your being so rude, we're having a somewhat constructed argument, if your going to start telling people they're not welcome here then sorry, your the problem.

- And you've already explained the whole Gold Coin income situation, you don't need to say anymore on that; we're talking about the rank of VIP and not Gold Coins.

Sh*t post inc.

 

when I meant "not welcome here", I meant that catastrophic thinking "oh WynnCraft will fall if VIP isn't buffed!" isn't a great thing in debate.

alright, my stance on VIP:
yes, more perks for VIP is nice, but we don't need to add 2x XP. adding 2X XP breaks the minecraft EULA and will not increase sales (see previous posts). yes, I'd like ways to level up faster, but I think there's other solutions than 2x EXP (Gavel, more quests, Dungeons, etc) and the server is completely sustainable in other ways (Gold Coin)

 

Right Ok, I get what your saying, and to be honest as much as I care about Wynncraft staying up, I'm only here because I want double XP, don't get me wrong, I care about Wynncrafts survival just as much as the next guy, and if everything we/I've mentioned are completely not going to happen on EULA terms, then I'd really appreciate Salted to come in and tell us thats not happening; I'd rather not keep going on and getting my hopes up.

 

a) why don't we start a seperate petition to just double the base experience of all monsters and quests? see my above post and section c)

b) Gold Coin

c) old 2x EXP can't happen, which is why there's the Golden Sheep/Totem ideas because he's trying to find ways to give us exp in other ways that doesn't break the EULA

 

Well if old 2x XP can't happen then neither can any of the other ideas, they are all going to break the terms of EULA surely, So why is this thread still open? And why is Salted asking for 'feedback'? is he actually looking at this feedback?

 

why can't the other ideas? sheep/totem both allow people who aren't VIPs to get the effects - so it's not a rank-exclusive advantage anymore

 

Ok, as much as I'm not hating on non-VIP's, (Considering you've spent more on Wynn than me) I don't think non-VIP's should get a big boost, well, anything close to what VIP's would get would be unfair, if non-VIP's get a huge advantage from not paying for VIP then whats the point of me being a VIP? I'd rather just have full 2x XP all the time for VIP and have some sort of small daily thing for non-VIP's.

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This modified version by @ArchAngel_Diablo is good, I'd settle for this; VIP's get 2x XP all the time and non-VIP's can get a boost too.

"1. Tweak the Golden Sheep Idea.
The Golden Sheep is actually the best idea, but it needs some tweaking.
1. Only allow people in party to gain xp. That way you won't get followed by others. And here is my proof:

Say your in Herb cave and the mobs there drop 100 xp. You kill 100 mobs and get 100 xp, but with the golden sheep, you get 20000 xp in all.
Other guy joins, both kill 50 mobs, and get 100 xp. Since he isn't in your party, he gets 5000 xp while you get 10000 xp.
If you have 5 people in Herb Cave (including you), you each kill 20 mobs, getting 20 x 100 x 2 = 4000 xp, while everyone else gets 2000 xp. Because of that, they might find it smarter to switch servers, since they are still not gaining as much xp, getting rid of this whole "noobs following me" thing, which was the main issue of the Golden Sheep.
This is the smartest idea since it still makes it possible for non-donors to get double xp, it's just you choose whether or not they get double xp or not.

Pros:

• Double xp for you and possibly everyone, Yay!
• Double xp all the time, Yay!
• No one will follow you unless you invited them into a party, Yay!
• Grinding spots might not be filled up as much, Yay!

Cons:

• Chance that non-donors might not get double xp, Boo!"

 

a) spent $135 now lol (VIP + 15 + 30 + 30 + 30)

b) they're not. the totems can only be used by VIPs.

c) normal: normal, VIP: custom stuff bombs (some xp bomb solution) etc. etc. name crap crap, i think it's a pretty big gap

d) the point of being a VIP under this is to choose where you want double XP, not the leechers in the nonVIP group. a ToL leech wouldn't want to take a level 30 VIP's totem in Nemract nor would a level 16 leecher want to take a totem grind spot in the herbcave.

e) EULA is a dick

f) why?

 

To answer f) "why?" Well people are going on about giving advantages to non-VIP's, and to that I say give it to them, as long as its nowhere as good as VIP's boosts.

 

ugh alright then

first of all, non-VIPs are not getting a huge boost. they're not getting all the bombs, pets, cosmetics, etc., etc. VIPs are. non-VIPs are not getting a huge advantage from VIPs - under this system, the reason you want to be a VIP is to place your own totems, unlike non-VIPs who need to find out where there's totems and whether the spot suits their level. as said before, we can't have 2x xp, and the normal ranks don't need anything. that tweaked golden sheep idea looks alright though

 

I didn't get the layout because you hadn't finished editing it, Don't worry, I get it now. Regarding the totems people were saying that they would be visible, either with a actually totem-looking thing or with an area outlined.

 

why don't they have blocks that show where the double XP place is only to the person who put the totem but hidden to other people (non-VIPs) there?

 

Because regardless of the fact anyone knows someone would have double XP there, your always going to get someone who's going to steal your grinding spot anyway, and if they don't leave and the double XP you activated doesn't move server then you just wasted your double XP.

 

have the totem transfer with the player as they change servers?

e.x. VIP joins server 3 and uses totem
then someone steals the spot
the VIP leaves and joins server 4 -- the totem is removed from server 3 and placed at the same location it was in server 4

 

Wasn't another problem not having enough player to player so called passing eachother

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Non vips have gotten a big disadvantage du to the nether removal