Closed: Wynncraft's Storyline Is All Wrong. And I Can Prove It!

So I was reading this awesome thread right here about how good exactly the player is. (Seriously check it out, its an awesome thready)

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/the-player-you-isnt-such-a-hero.96150/

And I started thinking about the player. Now, you may now, or you may not, that I am very calculative and analytical. So when I started doing my calculations about the player, I realized the numbers did not add up to the story line or the lore. Something about Wynncraft is wrong, and it all starts with you!

Now I do want to note that I talk about Dern a bit in this, and I don't want to bore you with yet another Dern thread, so anything I say regarding Dern will fallow a 2 simple rules; 1: Not much is known about Dern or it's locations/inhabitants, 2: If we do talk about Dern's inhabitants, they will simply be regarded as endermen.

So with all those disclaimers out of the way, lets hop right in!


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I want to set a simple understanding of how the provinces work. There are 3; Gavel, Wynn, and Dern. In the official lore it states that when Dern was discovered, it was "a 3rd province" meaning that there were only 2 known before.

Also, in Christmas Chaos, it is stated "Santa is a real man who delivers presents all over the three provinces..." This further proves that there are only 3 provinces. NO MORE THAN 3!

So, how does any of this break Wynncraft? Well, lets take a look at the player.

Who is the player? You may say "Oh, the player is a warrior/assassin/mage/archer from Ragni". And you would be correct, except the player is not from Ragni. The player did not grow up in Ragni. They they are first seen in a caravan going to Ragni. You enter the back of the castle, the side facing away from Wynn. It is stated in the very first quest, King's Recruit, by Honynn:

"Undeads! we are under attack! Use your weapon to defend us!"

"Don't worry about us! Keep going, quick! The King is waiting for you"

So, what does this mean? Well, first of all, he says "use your weapon" implying that you are the only fighter in the group. The second quote says that the king is waiting for you. Put these together, it implys that you came on the caravan going to Ragni. At Ragni the King is waiting for you to arrive, to add you to the army. This is reinforced why the king says:

"Aaah! A new recruit! You arrived just in time".

"Welcome to the province of Wynn!"

"Your job is to stop the growth of the monsters that ravage the province"


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Still scratching your head at what here breaks Wynncraft? Well, look at the second quote. Welcome to the province of Wynn! He is implying that you are new to Wynn. So if you are not from Wynn, where are you from? Humans are from Wynn. Villagers from Gavel, and who knows what from Dern (For the sake of argument, lets say Endermen). You are not an Enderman, you are certainly not a Villager, but are you a human? If these species only exist in their own province, or in the Villager's case, spread to another province, where do you fit in. For you to be human, you need to be from Wynn. But you are not from Wynn. But you are human...

Do you see where the logic is starting to crack? There is only one loop hole, lets assume Endermen are not Dern's inhabitants, instead, you are. The player comes from Dern. But this has problems. Although Dern seems like common knowledge to Tom in Christmas Chaos, in the lore, it is very clear that not much is known about Dern. And if no one knows anything about Dern, then how could the King of Ragni know you were coming? Also, there are villagers in your caravan. They only exist in Gavel and Wynn. So if your caravan did indeed come from Dern, and somehow the King knew, why would there be villagers? The convoy could not have come from Wynn, as the king welcomes you to Wynn, and you could not have come from Gavel, since only Villagers were allowed there in this point in the story line.

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So, you are not from Dern, you are not from Gavel, and you are nor from Wynn. But there are no more provinces. So something about Wynncraft's story line is broken. Wynncraft's entire logic therefor falls. The whole history is that the only way Wynn could survive was with the Villagers. But why did Wynn not call in recruits form wherever you come from? And why have we not heard of your homeland? Heck, you can't even have a homeland, since there are only three provinces.

We can keep running around this paradox forever, or we can accept the fact: Wynncraft's logic is flawed. Everything you thought, the basic principles of Wynncraft, is wrong.


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So that's all I have for you today. I really want to hear your thoughts and opinions on this.

Al Simula

SPYROHAWK

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P.S.

Does anyone else notice that the king of Ragni breaks the fourth wall?

"... Anyway, good luck! If you are lost, use wynncraft.com/map it is very useful at the start."

woah

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Afternote:

Although this thread has been proven wrong, I will be keeping it due to a certain comment. Anything regarding that comment will be handled in the comments, so instead of reading the actual post to see what new ideas are forming, be sure to read the comments
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After After note:

The player is from the province of Fruma. The king of Ragni gets recruits from there. Everything makes sense now. He still breaks the fourth wall though

 

Maybe the players came from a small village past Ragni and were on their way to the rest of Wynn after extensive training. You can't just give a guy a weapon and throw him into the corruption of Wynn, after all.

 

What if the player lived in...... Earth.... spooky

 

Wynncraft's logic is not flawed.

You even said the answer in your own post, but then contradicted it later

In the lore of the game, people don't consider Dern a true "province" as they just see it as a "Far off dark land".

Meaning, there ARE still 3 primary provinces. (Although you should still think of Dern as a province).

"But there are no more provinces" - This. This is where YOU are wrong.

You'll find a new name surface in the update.

 

Oooooooooooo

@Capa your cactus province is confirmed.

 

What is south of Ragni though? Where does the player come from?

 

OMFG the spoilers! :O
oh and also CORKUS CONFIRMED!!!!!

 

I like this.

I made a post back before 9/7 questioning the origin of the player and the caravan, but didn't develop the theory as far as you did! Congrats on that!

 

Lol, even without Grians revelation, which wasn't really known before he said it in this thread, your theory fails when you say that the King is breaking the 4th wall, we should therefore assume that the rest of the welcoming to wynn also breaks the 4th wall. Therefore the welcoming to wynn that is so important in your theory.

I ate an entire ice-cream tub 5 minutes before i wrote this post.

Also After much research I have discovered the name of the third province, it is the "soon" province, the residents are the wynncraft content team and it will always be coming "soon"

 

4PROVINCESCONFIRMED :OOOO

 

Canada

 

Is it safe to assume that this "3rd" "main" province is "Lost in time "

 

Lets me start by saying I am so honored that you actually saw this.

Now Grian, you are the main man, so you obviously know best. I am not trying to argue with you on your own game, but I would like to take a tiny look.

Lets take a look.


You said something about the new update, which means Gavel will reveal the answers to some questions. You say that Dern would not necessarily be called a province. But a "Far off dark land"

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Now this is according to the official wiki, the one linked on the Wynncraft website. In the storyline page:

"The new emerald mine found it incredibly easy to mine through the mountain and are intrigued to discover what lies on the other side, whispers of a third province named Dern was told from the villagers, though they did not know the exact location, nor did they want to talk about it."

I am not arguing that Dern is not dark, I will get to that next, but about it not being a province. Now of coarse, whispers and rumors can be wrong. But still, if the miners mined through the mountain and got to Dern, then Dern can't be that "Far off"

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Second, you said it is a "Dark Land". I think I understand what you are saying. Dern is not a province. It is a dimension. In Wynn, we have the nether (corruption). In Gavel, there is the dimension of Light.

In Wynn Excavation Quest D, the king of Ragni states that two forces are at war. When light and dark mix, their influence makes corruption.

We always assumed Dern was the third province, and had a dark dimension, but you might have changed that.

Dern is not the third province. It is the Dark dimension within the third province.

But wait.. I seem to have overlooked something :)

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"But there are no more provinces" - This. This is where YOU are wrong.

You have literally just gave out the biggest spoiler in Wynncraft history.

Not only are you saying that there are more than 3 provinces, but you are also saying that some of them contain humans. AND that Wynn has been in contact with some of them (Since the king of Ragni knew about the player coming).

Considering the way to phrased it, it sounds like you are saying "3 main provinces, more non-main ones"

(BTW you might want to revise the wording of Christmas chaos from "all over the three provinces" to something like "all over three provinces" so that it does not seem subjective)

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Conclusion:

You, good sir, have blown my mind. I knew you guys had a plan, but assumed it would just be Wynn, Gavel, and Dern. You have thought this through so good, I am awestruck. You must have been planning this from the beginning. I am actually surprised no one leaked this until now.

Sorry for such a long comment.

Also, once again, you know better than me whats going on. I am not trying to fight you, I am just trying to piece together the facts. I tend to do it out loud like this. I thank you for your reply, and look forward to the future of Wynncraft.

 

It doesn't say anywhere that santa visits all three provinces it say he visits the three provinces, that implys that there are three provinces but there can be more.

 

I assume you read my Dern theories? Shoot, I should revise them now with this new info...

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Which is why I suggested the wording change

 

Dern being the third provence's dimension in an interesting thought but how would the door of time fit in?

 

Also, for anyone interested, I looked through my post, and I can not see where I contradicted myself. If someone can help me find it, that would help us all piece this together.

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Well remember, My original theories assumed that Dern was a province, and that there were only 3.

If each province has a dimension that corresponds to something different, then there could easily be a time dimension in some province. That province could probably be accessed through the door of time.

On further note, since we now know there are more provinces, we have a few Easter eggs that contain clues.

In a cave near the abandoned mines, there is an end portal. Put this with the now-removed Enedr-obsession Easter egg that was in Ternaves, we could easily piece together and Ender province too.

 

I'll laugh if the name is Corkus.

 

Lore is lore, not intirely fact. While there are three provinces known, that doesn't mean that there are only three. The creators of the lore only know that there are three and so assume that those are the only three. But this is all irrelevant due to Grians response.

 

I beleive the player comes from Dern because mages learned teleportation in Dern and it appears you teleport into the castle (it's very unclear what entrace you came from). I beleive that with your theory that Dern is another world like the nether and it connects to a place that, Wynn is in the middle of the because it is the corruption, and Gavel and ___ are light and dark.