Media Mage

it was a 70 def 50 int 28 str, its all about the freeze + meteor spam

 

"Low quality" was just an excuse to not say "shit" in the news page. Of course low quality content is allowed - in terms of someone simply being bad at making posts. But if they are intentionally making low quality posts, then it won't be allowed. I don't see how this is so hard to grasp.

Are you talking about nemracts bar or what? I'm yet to see a popular shitpost.

 

Not many people intentionally make low quality posts. Also you have no proof of your first statement.
Now, some people make low quality posts on accident while trying to make a good post, and aren't allowed.

If you don't look at Nemract's bar, you're missing what's probably the most popular section of the forums, except maybe the Wynncraft section. And even there, some shitposts are the most popular ones.

A shitpost is not a low quality post, it's a post created to generate likes. A shitpost can be high quality. I mean, a joke I made that was basically a shitpost got over 40 likes.

 

I have no proof, but from the general behaviour of the wynncraft team, it seems like the most logical thing by a long shot - at least for me.
Well nemracts bar is literally entitled to shitposts, where you are supposed to just joke around and have fun with the community, which is very different from the other forum sections.

I think we just have different opinions on what shitpost means here.
But anyways, let's just end this tiny little war of ours, it doesn't seem to be getting any places.

 

Everywhere is entitled to shitposts. Nowhere, not even Nemract's Bar is "entitled" to low quality posts. Entitled isn't really the right word there.

Now, we shouldn't have opinions on what something means, as they usually have a set definition. A shitpost by these forum's standards is a rather useless post made to farm likes and/or be funny and do nothing. Although, I suppose the latter is more of just a joke.

 

Yooo that's what my build is too. Its p good~

 

Hm, well our opinions on what a shitpost is really isn't as different as i thought.

 

Odd... I used that build to solo every boss save death. I couldn't crack his regen with full endgame, how'd you do it?

 

Mage actually seems OP when I tried it, very noice, 1000000000000000/10 m8 :P

(Seriously though, mage is good)

 

Weakling class? I believe you are mistaken...
Our heal spell can have us take on 1,000 multi hits of an assassin and live.
Our teleport spell gives us both mobility and the ability to tear you apart at the sub-atomic level as we phase through you.
Our meteor spell summons fire and rock from the depths of heck to rain down on our opponents.
And finally, our ice snake skewers wave after wave of opponents as we control it with our mind.
The Mage is not weak. The Mage is power in its purest form.

 

Thats nice and all but if you want to make a counter argument you should use real stats and strats.

 

The silliest thing I've heard in Wynncraft.

Mages are underpowered.

#Magesfolyfe

 

First off, Heal is the most unneeded spell mage has. All other classes but mage can one shot you in a duel. Bosses like death do that as well. Heal is useless since you usually only need to use it when you're in a situation where you're about to die, BUT these situations for me at least are only when i get one shot. Heal never helps me with anything. Meteor again, is a hard spell to aim from long distance since you need to aim it at the block where you want it to go. The angle aka degree is a problem when doing this. It also has a limit on how far it can go. The dmg is much lower then the dmg of the other classes. By much i mean A LOT. I use meteor as my normal attack move. It does lower dmg then a normal hit from a archer for example. Since mage is all about the spells you need to be good at using them ( Click combos). The click combos however do not always work. 40% of the times it shows for example right left left, but does not do the move. Mage is the hardest class to use in combat, the weakest when it comes to dmg, and annoying due to these issues i explained earlier. I believe mage should get a dmg buff. It doesn't have to be big, mage should still be weakest in dmg ( just not 3 times weaker). Having spells as the main fighting style also causes issues like having to put points into mana, which takes away points from both defense and attack ( depending on how you have chosen to put them). Is it only me, or do other mage users also see these as unfair disadvantages and issues?

 

You are right for the combo issus, but you are wrong on the others things: It seems like you want to use mage as a tank !

 

I always get one shot in duels and miss my meteors due to the angle, or hit and do no dmg. I find hunter as a 5 times better class.

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How should i use it? Isn't it worse then the other classes if you have to be 3 times more skilled to use it properly? Also the combo issue makes casting spells so much slower which usually gets me killed in any duel or boss, since i can't do the right spells in time.

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Are mages meant to be bad in duels and bosses? I know mage is good against a crowd of weaker enemies. other classes would take longer to kill that crowd while mage does it easily. But just the fact that mage is bad in a one versus one situation is what i see unfair in the class. All i do in duels is pray to not get hit once, because if i do i lose. I find mage as the hardest class to use. I want to hear everyones opinions on this.

 

mages aren't meant to be weak, but just as the assassin's damage and defense got "glitched" to a point where you have a stealth class with the 2000% damage on its highest attack and defense that is closer to the tank class than any other class. the mage's defense is currently at 85% instead of 100%.
also I main a mage and no one was ever able to one shot me, all of the "one shot" spells are multi hit spells that let you cast heal at the middle and get away with it. the only problem I have with mage is against the high bosses (bob and death).

 

The Mage lacks multihitting spells such as Arrow Storm, Smoke Bomb, or Uppercut(to mention a few that don't explicitly advertise hitting multiple times), which lessens the usefulness of Life Steal. Most of the time you won't ever have more than 1-1.2 Life Steal towards the endgame, which means you need to hit enemies approximately 20 times to restore your health to full. While hitting multiple enemies at once can help alleviate this, against bosses it's less conducive than you'd expect. Health Regen activates on a set tick, and again, in endgame stuff you'll most likely have about 2.8 health regen(3.3-3.5 if you're wielding a Mythic), which means you regenerate 2-3 or 3-4 health per this tick...which happens about once every 3.5 seconds. A gap plenty long enough for enemies to chop off more of your health. Heal NEVER loses its touch, especially since it gives you a pseudo-health regen effect in of itself with the Pulse.

While Mage lacks a full repertoire of skills that damage opponents, how it does do so with what it has is already plenty effective. Its basic attack is a 8-10 block long, 1.5 block wide AOE that can be repeated with the fastest time of any weapon as well as having slightly more knockback than other basic attacks, making it useful for controlling and herding enemies. Teleport blinds enemies and is dirt-cheap on mana, in addition to being arguably the best movement spell in the game(20 blocks per teleport, 5 teleports before mana recharge at base cost) and, being a movement spell, easily shifted to at a moment's notice. Meteor is the strongest singular hit in the game at 250%, beating out Bomb Arrow and Uppercut(in its initial hit). The sparks it leaves can easily string up hits on one or two targets to increase that further. Ice Snake may not be an offensive spell, only dealing 50% damage, but it does deal damage, as well as having an extremely potent slowdown effect. Chain it with Teleport effectively and your enemies will be effectively immobile, especially thanks to its cheap 4-mana cost, and with its massive 30 block range and reticule-tracking you can essentially hit anyone and everyone you can see with it if you're skilled enough.

If Mage had higher-damage spells or attacks, it'd be as overpowered as Assassin is right now with its goddamn 2000% damage Multihits. It's fine as is, and Salted has even confirmed Mage to be getting buffed in Gavel. He's also said multiple times that potions are going to become more useful, which can presumably mean that if you have someone with the ability to heal with you, your life is gonna be a lot easier.

Copied from another magebuff suggestion thread.

 

I know the mages spells and normal attack can be more useful then any other classes spells in everything else but power, but they do not do dmg which will kill you in a fight against a boss, archer, warrior or anything that can one or two hit you. Who cares if the spells are "useful" if you're still gonna end up dying due to the fact that you don't do enough dmg. When i fight someone it's not a fight of who kills the other first. It's a fight of how long i can survive by confusing the oponent with ice snake or teleport. It's so much easier to be able to just 2 hit someone or 1 hit something, then having to use this conplicated fighting style that a mage has.

 

I only ever had a problem fighting against the end game bosses (bob and death) because the boss arena is too small and flat to use a normal Mage strategy on.
In pop the biggest problem is 70 defense warriors that are unkillable and assassins with their glitches defense stat.

 

I remember Grian saying this somewhere can't remember where but "NO ONE has ever said MAGE is a support class..." (it went something like that)
Mage IS NOT support class...you can do with it alone (except you can't win death I have heard..)

And also WHY IS THIS THREAD POPPING UP ALL THE TIME!

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I think you can't win death alone... regen is too fast... I hope this will be fixed